Episode 946- Coach Jeff Goodrum

In today's episode Jeremy sits down in person and chats with Coach Jeff Goodrum after Free Training Day Midwest in Kansas.

Coach Jeff Goodrum - Episode 946

SUMMARY
Jeremy chat with his guest, Coach Jeff Goodrum, and discusses his love for martial arts and the open-mindedness it brings. He talks about the importance of being a student and constantly learning, as well as the impact of his instructors and upbringing on his mindset. Coach Goodrum also touches on his experiences with fighting and the entertainment aspect of martial arts. He reflects on his journey through different martial arts styles and the influence of his father. He talks about his journey from being a college dropout to starting his own martial arts school and mentoring kids. He shares how his mother's support and his passion for music and martial arts motivated him. Coach Goodrum also discusses the importance of having a mentor and how he wants to be that mentor for kids who don't have a support system. He emphasizes the need for kids to have positive role models and learn how to be heroes in their own lives. He also talks about the challenges of formalizing his training program and the importance of continuous learning and self-improvement. He discusses the importance of seeking help and mentorship in business and martial arts. He highlights the benefits of working with the Small Business Development Center and emphasizes the value of learning from experienced individuals. Lastly, he also talks about the need for education and knowledge in entrepreneurship and the importance of finding a balance between different aspects of life. He shares his vision for his martial arts school and the impact he hopes to have on his students. Overall, the conversation explores themes of mentorship, education, personal growth, and community building.

TAKEAWAYS
* Martial arts fosters an open-mindedness and willingness to constantly learn and improve.
* The influence of instructors and upbringing plays a significant role in shaping one's mindset.
* Fighting can be both entertaining and a valuable learning experience.
* Being a student and constantly seeking knowledge is important in martial arts and in life.
* Following one's passion and making decisions based on personal fulfillment is crucial. Having a support system and a mentor can make a huge difference in a person's life.
* Kids who don't have a support system need positive role models and mentors to guide them.
* Formalizing a training program and starting a business can be challenging but rewarding.
* Continuous learning and self-improvement are essential for personal and professional growth. Seeking help and mentorship is crucial for success in business and martial arts.
* The Small Business Development Center offers valuable resources and support for small businesses.
* Education and knowledge are essential for entrepreneurship.
* Finding a balance between different aspects of life is important.
* Martial arts can teach valuable life skills and help individuals cope with trauma.
* Building a strong community is a key aspect of martial arts.
* Being open to learning and seeking guidance from experienced individuals is beneficial in personal and professional growth.

CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Discussion on Martial Arts
02:01 The Excitement of Being a Student
05:21 The Influence of Instructors and Upbringing
09:21 The Role of Martial Arts in Personal Life
13:26 Conflict and Personal Growth
18:16 The Entertainment Aspect of Martial Arts
20:31 Following Your Passion: College Experience
21:29 From College Dropout to Martial Arts Mentor
22:13 The Power of Positive Role Models
23:12 Challenges and Rewards of Starting a Business
24:30 The Importance of Continuous Learning and Self-Improvement
43:20 The Power of Mentorship
43:51 The Small Business Development Center
46:19 The Importance of Education in Entrepreneurship
49:17 The Value of Seeking Help and Mentorship
51:17 Utilizing Available Space for Community Building
57:21 Finding Balance in Life and Business
01:02:16 Teaching Martial Arts for Personal Growth and Coping with Trauma
01:03:21 Building a Strong Community through Martial Arts
01:04:07 The Value of Learning from Experienced Individuals

Show Notes

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Show Transcript

Jeremy (00:43.896)

This is doing funny. we're good. I'm just looking at the wrong thing. Well, Jeff. Jeff not good. Good drum. Good drum. I feel like we need a snare kick.

Jeremy (00:47.873)

This is doing funny things. is this one? we're good. I'm just looking at the rock. Well, Jeff. Jeff, good. Good drop. I feel like we need a snare kick.

Jeremy (01:14.668)

I met you yesterday. You showed up for free training. And you know, so there's this interesting thing that happens for me because now, you know, such a large part of my job is traveling around and meeting people and going to these events. And I can usually get a pretty good beat on someone's knowledge and experience.

Jeremy (01:14.826)

I met you yesterday. You showed up for free training last, like, you did the next one. Yeah. And, you know, so there's this interesting thing that happens for me, because now, you know, such a large part of my job is traveling around and meeting people and going to these events. And I can usually get a pretty good read on someone's knowledge and experience based on the way

Jeremy (01:42.305)

based on the way they show up in a session. Now, you were one of the folks at the end of the day. You were in the session, I taught, and you did an amazing job of fooling me. I appreciate you, right? And I'm not saying you were sandbagging.

Jeremy (01:44.298)

they show up in a session. Now, you were one of the folks at the end of the day. You were in the session, I taught, and you did an amazing job of fooling me. I appreciate it. Right? And I'm not saying you were stand back.

Jeremy (02:01.127)

It seems like you were so open. You were so, you know, we talk about on commercial or trade all the time, is having a white belt mentality. You were so willing to just, I'm open, I'm here, like, give me, you know, whatever, like I'll take whatever I can all of these, but give me all of it. I'm just always excited to work with you as much as I can. It's hard for me to contain myself. The whole day I'm just trying not

Jeremy (02:01.288)

It seems like you were so open. You were so, we talk about it all the time, having a white woman. You were so willing to just, I'm open, I'm here, give me whatever, I'll take whatever I can get. I'm just always excited around martial arts in general. It's hard for me to contain myself. The whole day I'm just trying not to.

Jeremy (02:30.228)

talk and be like, hey, did you do this? Like, whole time I was just trying to focus and I was really hard. As a kid with ADHD, that was super hard, but when it comes down to arts, I'm just like, I need to be better. And the only way to do that is to absorb all of that, all that you're giving me. So that's, opened me back up to thinking like, man, I need to start taking more classes. Like, to that. So being on that side of the line, it's like, yeah, it's great,

Jeremy (02:30.45)

and be like, hey, how do you do this? Like, whole time I was just trying to focus on the card. Yeah, as a kid with ADHD, that was super hard, but when it comes down to martial arts, I'm just like, I need to be better in the open to do that, is to absorb all that you're giving me. that's, it opened me back up to thinking like, man, I need to start taking more classes. Like, I Because you teach in code. Yeah. So being on that side of the line, it's like, yeah, it's great,

Jeremy (02:59.273)

I really like being a student too. I just sit back and just absorb instead of like guessing myself like, wait did I do this right? Am I doing this correct? But yeah, I really know that I loved it a lot. My favorite place is to be in the back of the room. Yeah. Because there's no one expecting it. When you're in the back of the room, you just get to learn. Right? Even if just a senior rank, you still have to make sure that you're showing up well for the people behind you as you're writing next to the

Jeremy (02:59.412)

I really like being a student too. That's, I can just sit back and absorb instead of second guessing. I'm like, wait, did I do that right? Did I do this correct? But yeah, I really loved it a lot. My favorite place is to be in the back of room. Yeah. Cause there's no expectation. And you're in the back of the room, you just get to learn. Yes. Right? And you're in, even if you're just a, if you're a senior rank, you still have to make sure that you're showing up for the people behind you.

right next to the instructor and they're watching you and you probably know them well and they're probably working with you on something. When you're in the back of the room it's like, you're down here, you what I'm saying? screwed that up. Oops, screwed up, it's all good. It's a freedom in that. But yeah, every session I took yesterday I learned a lot from, so I wish I would have had a new book with me. I left it in the bag. It's all good. got some videos. We'll see what we

Jeremy (03:28.338)

They're watching you probably know them well. They're probably you know, they're working with you know, but when you're in the back of the road You're down here. No, that on But yeah every every session I took this So I wish I would have a notebook with me. I left it in the back

Jeremy (03:57.458)

with that, but in terms of mindset, right? Because that's not, open -mindedness is not something that we see with everyone, right? You've been around long enough to know that's not everybody. Maybe we can even make the claim that that's not the majority of it, that most people are not like that. I like to think I embody that, certainly I've heard that in you. Where does that come from for you? Was that an instructor or was that your parental upbringing? That was...

Jeremy (03:57.6)

with that, but in terms of mindset, right? Because that's not, that open -mindedness is not something that we see with everything, right? You've been around long enough to know that's not everybody. Maybe we can even make the claim that that's not the majority, that most people are not like that. I like to think that am bullied. I certainly observed that in you. Where does that come from? Was that an instructor or was that your parental upbringing? I grew up

Jeremy (04:25.815)

I, growing up, I noticed, which is in general, in college, I think in college is when I came out of being on autopilot. That's when I realized, hey, you're an adult. So, I noticed a lot of my, have to try now. yeah, a lot of my, any issue I had with being annoyed or angry or just anything like that was because I immediately thought, no. When you ask or you say something, like hey, have you thought about this? you tried this or?

Jeremy (04:27.618)

But just in general, in college, I think I came out of being on autopilot. That's when I realized, hey, you're an adult. so I noticed a lot of my, I have to try that. yeah. A of any issue I had with being an adult or being weird, just anything like that was because I immediately thought, When you ask or say something like, have you thought about this, have you tried this

Jeremy (04:55.066)

What if you went about this certain thing this way? I would be like, no, no. And I was like, man, I'm really dumb. If I just change that no into a maybe, now I'm like, my foot's in the door of this new way of doing something. And then I got into the spirit of Budo. I think about Shoshin, I was having a student mind test. So I really do my best to sit back

Jeremy (04:55.254)

But if you went about this or this way, I would be like, no, no. And I was like, yeah, I'm really dumb. If I just take that knowing to a maybe, now I'm like, what's in the door of this new way of doing something? And then I got into the spirits of Budo, being about Shoshin, always having a student mindset. So I really do my best to sit back and try to always think maybe, even if it's something.

Jeremy (05:21.976)

I to always think maybe, even if it's something ridiculous. Even if it's my kids saying, hey, there's a monster in bed. I'm like, maybe. There could be, possibly, if it's something you did. But no, I like that my kid. So now it's like, if there was one, are you ready to feed it? And actually did that to my nephew, which is messed up. I was in high school. I was babysitting him. was in my room asleep.

Jeremy (05:24.946)

Even if it's my kids saying, there's a monster in the bed, I'm like, no. There could be possibly something you did, but no. I don't like that. So now it's like, only if there was one, I could have done it. And I actually did that to my nephew, which is messed up. I was in high school. He was in, know, I was making city known. was in my room asleep. I was watching a movie, and he was walking in, he was scared of this monster in bed.

Jeremy (05:50.128)

and I was watching a movie and he called me in to see if I scared this monster instead and I was like, hmm, well if there is one, you take this sword. And I left it there and he was like, And he crashed out and I was like, yeah, that's good. So, trying to enter. And it helped me out because I think about it as I enter their world. So, even on the streets, someone, if I cross the one.

Jeremy (05:54.262)

I was like, hmm, if there is one, take this sword. And I left it there and he was like, and he crashed out and I was like, it won't get you. That's good. So trying to enter. And it helps me out because I think about it as I enter their world. even on the streets, someone, if I cross someone, I don't think you're wrong. think maybe I'm a jerk. Let's go into your world and look at me.

Jeremy (06:16.966)

I don't think you're wrong. think maybe I'm a jerk. Let's go into your world and look at me from your point of view. Like, I do look like a jerk right now. me back off. So that's my goal to kind of stay out of myself most of time. So you said this was just your free will college. Was there a specific experience or a specific professor or somebody? It was probably just accumulated from a lot of the professors I did hang out with. I was not good at being in class, but I was great

Jeremy (06:24.118)

From your point of view, I go, I do look like a jerk right now. Let me back off. So that's my goal to kind of stay out of myself most of the time. So you said this started to shift for you in college. Was there a specific experience or a specific professor or somebody? It was probably just accumulated from a lot of professors I did hang out with. I was not good at being in class, but I was great at picking their brains outside of class, showing up early and just going through that.

Jeremy (06:47.524)

picking their brains outside of classes, showing up early, just going through that. And I was in liberal Kansas, so I was at Seward County Community College for a while. And then I went over to Manhattan. yeah, a of the professors I went, you know, talked to and got advice from and all that. Everything they helped me on was really, from their perspective, they were more open -minded. They were not shut off to things. If something happened, they were

Jeremy (06:53.594)

I was in rural Kansas, so I was at Seward County Community College for a while. Then I went over to Manhattan, but a lot of the professors I would talk to and got advice from and all that, everything they helped me out with really, from their perspective, were more than kind. They were not shut off to things. If something happened, they were not closed down and do certain things a certain way that you're used to. It's okay, there's

Jeremy (07:16.773)

close down and do certain things a certain way that you're used to. It's, okay, there's an issue, this is how I did it, but there's all these other ways we can do it, let's figure it out. Even with my instructor, growing up, he wasn't closed off to just doing just like straight up karate. He was like, we want more people in here, we want to bring martial arts to the world, to the forefront, so let's jump on everything that's popping right now.

Jeremy (07:22.848)

is how I did it but there's all these other ways we can do it let's figure it out even with my instructor growing up he wasn't close enough to just do and just like straight up karate he was like we are working with you to bring martial arts to the world or to the floor of crime so let's jump on everything that's that's popping right now so I think I heard you say Shotokan? Yeah Shotokan freestyle karate

Jeremy (07:45.529)

So think I heard you say shut up. Yeah, shut up. Con freestyle karate. when I started, what was really big was, I think it was just, just forms and competition and tournaments. And then it turned into a UFC got huge. So then we're doing just to a grappling and, some, some of us got parts in certain like acting gigs like outside of our hometown. So flipping and tricking was huge too.

Jeremy (07:52.212)

When I started, what was really big was, I think it was just forms and competition and tournaments and then it turned into UFC got huge. So then we were doing some shit too, grappling. Some of us got parts in certain acting gigs outside of our hometown. So flipping and tricky was huge too. it was like, this was all in the same school. That's a really open -minded environment. It was great.

Jeremy (08:15.319)

It was like... This was all in the same school? Okay, that's a really open -minded environment. It was great because it was awesome with all the black belts we had. The black belts were kind of like specialized in the thing. Like we had a guy here who was Bo Staff Master. This guy here was great at his traditional forms. Or she was good at teaching this, this age of kids. They're like... You had that person who was the main fighter, the main flipper, the main like whatever. So you had all that to draw from and it sick.

Jeremy (08:22.432)

It was awesome. All the black belts we had, all the black belts were kind of like specialized in a thing. Like the guy here was most out of match. This guy here was great at his traditional forms or she was good at teaching. This, this age of kids are like, you had that person who's the main fighter, the main flipper, the main like whatever. So you had all that to draw from. Was that encouraged or was it just not discouraged? I think it was hyper encouraged because of competition.

Jeremy (08:44.236)

I think it was hyper encouraged because of competition. So talk to me about the main instructor who created this environment because that's super uncommon. Yeah, and he's old school so pretty much the just standing upright always, you know, sir, no sir, just very, what's that Steven, not Steven's full eyes, Clint Eastwood eyes, kind of like you do what I say, I'm sheep on like that kind of thing.

Jeremy (08:51.718)

So, so talk to me about the main instructor who created this environment because that's super uncommon. Yeah. And he's old school. pretty much the, just standing up right up with his yes or no, sir. Just very, what's that Steve has seen us go lives Clint Eastwood, like you do when I sit, he hung like that kind of thing, but still open minded at the same time training you to do different things that it doesn't look like you should know how to do. Cause he's just.

Jeremy (09:13.537)

but still open -minded at the same time and training you to do different things that it doesn't look like he should know how to do, but he's just a normal, like, you know, karate guy. So he did influence me a lot with that kind of way of thinking of like absorb and take what you can. Why'd you start training? Me? man. Martial arts has always been a part of my life. My dad was a huge Bruce Lee head growing up back in the 80s and he was in military and he always

Jeremy (09:21.81)

normal like know, pride guy so he did do a lot of that kind of way thinking of like absorbent energy. Why'd start training? Me? man, martial arts was always part of my life. My dad was a huge Bruce Lee head growing up back in the 80s and he was in the military. He grew up in a bad side of New York so he was always fighting. He was always that guy that you need to help you

Jeremy (09:43.063)

You grew up in a bad side of New York. So he was always fighting. He was always that guy that you went to to help you out if there was danger or violence. And being in the military, he just pursued that, know, I wasn't in New York in the 80s, but I the story. man, Some great stories, it's pretty cool. it's pretty interesting. But he always trained my sister and

Jeremy (09:51.2)

there's danger, violence, and being in the military, he just pursued that. New York in the 80s was kind cool. I wasn't in New York in the 80s, but I've heard the stories. man, It's, I've some crazy stories, it's pretty cool to for. It's interesting story, it's pretty interesting. few ways to train my sister and I was in a fight. We grew up in

Jeremy (10:12.801)

You know fight we grew up in a smaller town. He thought it would be a lot safer He's like you probably don't have to do this, but we're gonna do this though. Was that around here? No, that was in the world the Rokan so I'll get a small but I think you're small it was small town, but He did influence me pursue training because of the importance of it seeing that You know, you can get hurt if you're not, you know in shape or if you're not if you're not the person

Jeremy (10:20.064)

We're gonna do this. Was that around here? No, that was in liberal. So I was in a small town.

Jeremy (10:29.608)

He did influence me to pursue training because of the importance of it. Just thinking that, you know, you can get hurt if you're not in shape or if you're not the person that's most useful for you. It's not good. You want to be the person that gets hurt. So that's what he taught me. fighting in general, martial arts in general, I just almost encompassed all of that. You're sitting there thinking a lot, you're sitting there.

Jeremy (10:41.409)

the most useful physically, mentally in that room. It's not good. You want to be the first person can help. So that's what he taught me. fighting in general, martial arts and fighting in general, of just almost encompassed all of that. You're sitting there thinking a lot. You're sitting there communicating with different people. Your fitness is on a different level. Your coordination, for different martial artists, you throw something, they just catch it. Like nothing out the air.

Jeremy (10:59.802)

communicating with different people, your fitness is like on a different level, like your coordination with martial artists, like you throw something and they just catch it, like nothing out of your ears, like you just like, that. So he influenced me a lot to stay into martial arts. Also, he wrote music, and I made all that. But I did grow up, because he did leave. And he went back to New York and I was living with my mom.

Jeremy (11:10.679)

ninjas like I want to do that so he influenced me a lot to get into the to stay into martial arts also heroes like movies anime all that but I did grow up because he did leave and he went back to New York I was in liberal with my mom I did grow up in liberal single parent and kind of getting into trouble so I did I did fight very often and I wasn't nerdy

Jeremy (11:28.916)

I did grow up on a single parent and kind of get in trouble. I did fight very often. I was a nerdy chubby kid, going out with other nerdy kids. So we, and there was a lot of fights, a lot of, you know, jumping in and out. I'm ready to come in and end up like, with our mustaches or really like fifth grade.

Jeremy (11:38.837)

chubby kid who hung out with other nerdy kids that played Pokemon and so we they got picked on and growing up there was a lot of fights you know we'd jump in and help them out or them running to come get me and end up fighting three other kids that were like already had mustaches when I was barely like fifth grade and so how often did those fights result because your goal

Jeremy (11:59.004)

So how, I think I suspect this is important to ask now. How often did those fights result because your goal was to help someone else? That was pretty much the of the fight. They were coming after you. They were coming after your friends. After a while they kind of knew if was there not to do anything because even just having someone that think is great at fighting, they're fighting that, that's a karate kid. Even if that

Jeremy (12:09.051)

That was pretty much the majority of the fight. They weren't coming after you, they were coming after the browns. No, after a while they kind of knew if I was there, not to do anything. Even just having someone you think is great at fighting, I'm just good at fighting that, that's all that's a karate kid. Even if that person has your back, that kind of brings morale to everyone else. So everyone else would be, whatever happens, we're here. And it's like, yeah. So growing up doing that, and then also sitting back and thinking, gotta help these

Jeremy (12:27.638)

as your back that can bring the morale of everyone else up so everyone else would be whatever happens we're here and it's like yeah so growing up doing that and then also sitting back and thinking I gotta help these guys learn how to fight too so we would play fight all the time like it was a game to practice takedowns in wrestling and you know jumping off stuff things punches and so you're kind of teaching your friends at 11 12 years old

Jeremy (12:39.816)

So we would play fight all the time like it was a little game to practice takedowns and wrestling and know jumping off stuff doing things and throwing punches and so you're kind of teaching 11, 12 years old. Yep, so they knew nothing and then they were able to take care of themselves after like bouncing around. So that was that was cool and most of those games. Did you the awareness to recognize that's what you were doing? No

Jeremy (12:56.914)

So they knew that they were able to take care of themselves after like if I wasn't around. So that was cool. And most of those, did you the awareness to recognize that that's what you were doing? No, I was in an entertainment industry in my head. I was MC. I was a main character in my age. We made some of the level to fight the bad guys. But no, that's what it was for me. it worked out pretty well. They ended up doing a lot of like...

Jeremy (13:09.174)

I was in an anime in my head. I was MC of the main character, getting my teammates up to the level of fighting the bad guys. that's what it was for me. And it worked out pretty well. They ended up, you know, doing a lot of positive stuff afterwards. And also the kids that we were fighting that did, I would say, move over to become gang members or things like that. Become affiliated with certain things. Backed down and backed off.

Jeremy (13:26.582)

positive stuff afterwards and also the kids that we were fighting that did, I would say, gang members or things like that, become affiliated with certain things, backed down and backed off, and were friends of later on. So they really need to be. There's no issue, really, just you're different. And I'm glad that we really grow.

Jeremy (13:39.242)

and were friends of mine later on. So they, I mean, there was really no reason to fight us. Like there's no issue really, just you're different, that was it. And I'm glad that we kind of went through all that because we all really did grow from that conflict, that stress, that worry. And I like that the parents, I mean, some of the parents were sitting there, they kind of saw it happening. There's

Jeremy (13:58.112)

that conflict and like that they kind of saw it happening.

Jeremy (14:08.566)

They just like, yeah, let them do this, let them do that. yeah, I got a lot of influence from my dad, but also the necessity to keep supporting and fighting. I was also doing something about the type too, so. Was that at your mom's or your yeah, that was all me. But she was super supportive because like I single -parent, low income. I think...

Jeremy (14:08.597)

And he's just like, yeah, well, this is, let them do this, let them do that. yeah, I got a lot of influence from my dad to train, but also the necessity to keep sparring and fighting. I was also doing karate around that time too, so. Was that in your childhood school? yeah, that was all me. But she was super supportive of me. Like I single parent, low income. I think, cause this was

Jeremy (14:37.908)

because are like, riding's expensive. mean, you're low on nothing. Yeah, was, you have the gear, you just, all the tests, the geese that you shred because you're breaking all the time, and how they travel and that. So, after I became like a great, you know, I had to tell the sensei, I can't come anymore, I just can't afford it. He was like, God, don't worry. After that day, I never.

Jeremy (14:38.583)

It's expensive. It's, I mean, yeah, you have the gear, you just, all the tests, the geese that you just shred, have to train all the time. They travel, all that. So after I became a green belt, you know, I had to tell, send them, hey, I can't come anymore. I just can't afford it. It feels like, don't worry. After that day, I never paid a dime for

Jeremy (15:07.55)

anything. travel, tournaments, nothing. that made me think like dang. How old were you when you were kid? 14? Yeah, 13. Yeah, 13. you knew you were old enough to know what was going on and he was doing something special for you. Were you old enough to appreciate it? yeah.

Jeremy (15:08.076)

gear

I always did whatever he needed me to do. Like, go, yes sir, yes sir, yes sir. Even with, you know, doing demos or shows, what not. If it was last minute, yeah. You need me to do what? Jump off, flip off? Okay, I'll do that, don't worry. Like, I was very, I owe a lot to Market by Martial Arts. And even how to teach and train people. How to, I don't know, have that confidence. Even in my

Jeremy (15:36.116)

Thank them. always, yes sir, yes sir, sir. Even with, you know, certain shows or whatnot. If it was last minute, yeah. You need me to do what? Jump off, flip off? Okay, I'll do that. Like, I was very, I go to lots of of your sports. And even how to teach and train. How to have that confidence, even in my hometown.

Jeremy (16:05.662)

Everyone knew him and his reputation, so no one missed him. And everyone respected him. So it wasn't fear, fear. was like, geez, what? This is my guy. Like that kind of thing. So I was like, damn, I want to do that. want to have that kind of impact on the community. So you kept going to high school? High school, always in martial arts. Even all my friends, got into, I got them into it, you know, joining karate.

Jeremy (16:05.812)

Everyone knew him, his reputation, so no one respected him. wasn't ear -fearing, it was like, jeez, what? This is my guy. I like that kind of thing. So I was like, I want to do that. I want to have an interactive community. So you kept going through high school? High school, was doing martial arts. Even all my friends, I got into doing karate.

Jeremy (16:35.241)

becoming black belts with me like I was I was like yeah I don't want to be the only one that is able to fight and they saw they saw the good part about being a black belt in training they're like you're cool she can stake you and I was like yeah. Always go to black belt that's what happens to everyone. So always training always you know school training video games and just maybe sleep or canal and that's what it was.

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with me like I was like yeah I don't want to be the only one can take up a fight. They saw the good part about being black belt in training. They're like you're cool, jigs dig you. was like yeah man. I'm a black belt, that's what happens. Everyone just digs you. So voice training, school, video games, and just maybe sleeping out. So that's what it was.

Yeah, a really good time. So you go to college, brain starts to open up a little bit. You're starting to see the world, see things a little bit differently. My goal was always to train for university. I got a different thought about being an adult. Just me, like whatever. So I started opening up more and over to Manhattan.

Jeremy (17:16.752)

I always just, my goal was always to train in martial arts. I never thought about stopping even if I was on teaching. Just me, that's what I'm gonna do forever. So I started opening up more. I over to Manhattan. Didn't have a place to train. yeah, Manhattan, Kansas. The Wildcats, the college. But I was there, founded Dojo, the Trade Act. I was a broke college kid,

Jeremy (17:34.422)

yeah, was a broke college kid so they let me just come and train as well and also take classes. This is cool and especially grappling. I was cage fighting 15, 16.

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They let me just clean and train as well and also take a lot of their other classes on my team. This is cool and I learned a lot from there too, especially grappling wise. I was cage fighting from like 15, 16 and up and I'm shit too. So yeah, during that time, I'm really giving out my age. It was 2006 -ish.

Jeremy (18:02.838)

We gotta go back that. You can't just... So yeah, during that time, I'm really giving out my age. It 2006 -ish. Yeah, 2006. UFC was huge. Cools on fights were really like set with them. So you kind of put fights on them. And at that time, I was just a man.

Jeremy (18:16.433)

Yeah, UFC was huge. The rules on fights weren't really set with the public, so you can kind of put fights on. And at that age, at that time, I was able to just go in under 18, using my weight division, wear MMA gloves, a cuff, a mouthpiece, and fight. Head strikes, everything. So, yeah. I was already used to fighting like that anyways.

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great team, great division, where enemies come out piece and fight and sprites everything. yeah. any case, don't know you're used to it, but at any point, it's like just outside of the dojo team or something. I don't fight someone. But for me to do that, I just do what I'm doing. You know, ADHD and that kind of I'm not very good at it at time, so I was just going

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side of the dojo too. So for me I like, I don't fight someone, whatever. But training to do that, I was doing Jujitsu, you know ADHD, not very, I'm not very present sometimes. So I was just going off the motion and learning the techniques and whatnot. I was getting it, but I wasn't getting it strategy like, hey, do this, do that, do that, do this. I was more just instinct because growing up playing wrestling, doing all

Jeremy (19:02.358)

and learning techniques and whatnot. getting them, but I wasn't getting as trashy like, hey, do this, do that, do that, do this. I was more just instinctive growing up, playing wrestling and all that. I was always comfortable doing that. so basically, we're gonna get you arm bar and that's just what I was just drilling all the time. And that was it. Everything else, stand up, someone could be flashing.

Jeremy (19:16.273)

was very comfortable just rolling. I was always comfortable doing that. so basically just reneging choke, arm bar, and triangle. That's just what I was just drilling all the time. And that was it. Everything else ended up that I wanted to be flashy. So when I was 15, that fight was my birthday. I became 16. I won by submission. And I was like, yeah, really smart. I don't want to be boring, which I mean, it's not boring,

Jeremy (19:32.214)

So when I was 15, that fight was my birthday. I became 16. I won by submission. And I really just want to stand up and out and challenge. I mean, it's not boring, at that time, the public knowledge of fighting, they're entertaining me around the strikes, intricacies of the blocks and chokes. But... It seems like it's just coming down, too. Yeah, now we need to figure it accurately because there are a lot of armchair... There are a of marriage with public.

Jeremy (19:45.528)

At that time, the public knowledge on fighting, their entertainment came from strikes, not the intricacies of blocks and, you chokes. But... Yeah, now it's like... There's a of nerds. Yeah, I like those nerdy things, but yeah, I always will stick to the entertainment part of it. It's entertaining for me, not just people watching.

Jeremy (20:02.078)

So he's gonna go fast to the triangle. Yeah, I like those things. yeah, I always stick to the entertainment part. It's the entertainment part, not just people watching. To go in there, be Jackie Chan or the Bruce or Jet. Just get in there and move around, throw a Be awesome. Like in there, just like, I'm awesome. That's feeling. I don't really get that feeling. It's what I'm grappling with. Don't die. Don't die. die.

Jeremy (20:15.236)

To go in there and be Jackie Chan or the big Bruce or Chet. Just get in there, move around, throw a kick and just be awesome. Like in your next game, I'm awesome. That's feeling. I don't really get that from grappling as much. When I'm grappling, I'm just like, don't die, don't die, don't die. Yeah, you're just one second away from dying. But yeah, I kept training, took it up to Manhattan, met more people and just continued from there.

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Yeah, you just... don't think you're the only one. to school nothing. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of an experience, probably, too. But yeah, I kept training to get up to and had met more people and just continued from there. I was going to school for just music at birth, and I switched over to biology, and I was like, wait, why am I going to school? I started waking up. Maybe because I was hungry. This is rude. Why am I going to

Jeremy (20:44.559)

I was going to school for just music at first and I switched over to biology and I was like, wait, why am I going to school? I started waking up. Maybe because I was fun. Why am I going to school? Is it for the money to get a job? it for this or that? Do I care about like, how am going to make money just doing music stuff? Like I enjoy doing that for free on a corner with a

Jeremy (21:00.584)

Is it for the money to get a job? it for this or that? Do I care about? Like how am going to make money? Just doing music stuff. Like I enjoy doing that for free on the corner of the guitar. That's it. Music theory, was cool on that, but I was more about performing for people. I like, so I don't really want to stick to this. And then biology, I'm like, I'm not really going to, I don't have the temperament to be in class this long.

Jeremy (21:13.953)

That's it. Music theory, was cool on that, I was more about performing and playing for people. So I don't really stick to this. And then with biology, I'm like, I'm not really gonna, I don't have the temperament to be in the class to go through and get a master's to try to get a specialization in whatever interests me. So I'm like, I'm better, it's better for me just to stop. And I saw how much debt I was getting. Me too.

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to get a master's in order to get a specialization in whatever interests me. So I'm like, I'm better at communications to stop. So, I was always getting into, all these numbers are big, but there's a line right here. I'm doing that, I'm not doing well. So, yeah, it's better if I just work and then train and then figure things out after that. So, with that. she's supposed to be always supporting me. Like, was always

Jeremy (21:43.282)

These numbers are big, but there's a line right here. It's showing that I'm not doing well. So, I it's better if I just quit, just work in the train, and then figure things out after that. So, with that... she always supported me. She was always supportive. She was the biggest supporter of everything. Even with music. The reason why I wanted to be so good at music and martial arts, I wanted to buy her a house. I thought if I get famous, if I get

Jeremy (21:59.99)

That's huge. She was the biggest supporter of everything, even with music. The reason why I wanted to be so good at music and martial arts, I wanted to buy her classes. I if I get famous, I get rich. I watched a lot of MTV, so Kiss, Grins, just metal. was like, if you get rich, that's how get a big house, get guitar, and learn. And I told her, baby, I want

Jeremy (22:13.233)

And I watched a lot of MTV. So, know, like Kiss, Scorpion, know, just metal. was like, that's how you get rich. That's how you get a big house. So need to get a guitar and learn. And I told him, hey, I want to play this. I'm going to get really good. I'm going to get you a house. So she saved up and got me a normal acoustic guitar. No one to teach me. So.

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want to play this. I want to get really good at everything. I want to get you house. she saved up and got me an acoustic guitar. No one had changed me. So the hyper focus, I would sit there for hours and just practice, just, know, one finger frets, just get my coordination coming. That really skyrocketed my, my ability to play guitar. You wish you knew me to do it with my hands, then I'm good. It's

Jeremy (22:42.443)

That hyper focus, I would sit there for hours and just practice, just, you know, one finger frets, just get my coordination up. That really skyrocketed my ability to learn guitar, because if I can sit there and do what you need me to do with my hands, then I'm good. It's like being an athlete, coming in to learn how to do a martial art move. If you're physically capable of moving your whole body and you're coordinated, you're gonna learn how to throw a roundhouse kick a little bit faster than your average person.

Jeremy (23:00.086)

It's like being an athlete, coming in to learn how to do a martial art move. So you're already physically full of your body, you're coordinated, you're gonna learn how to throw a lot of those kicks a bit faster than every person. So yeah, she did a lot of saving, trying to cultivate any talent that I had, anything I could possibly do, and she would try to make me good at something. So really

Jeremy (23:12.168)

So yeah, she did a lot of saving and trying to, once I cultivate any talent that I had, anything I was doing, she would try to make me try to make me good at something. So I really owe her a lot for that. But as far as in college, going off and trying to do my own thing, she supported it. She knew what's not good in school.

Jeremy (23:30.87)

but as far as, in college, she would often try to do my own thing. She supported it. She knew I was not good in school. Like I said, I think I told you before, right? Maybe when we were out eating, in high school, I was pretty much absent 80 % of the time. No, I, I didn't catch that. was, yeah, so I was Where were you? video games, training, or, yeah,

Jeremy (23:41.035)

Like I said, I think I told you before, or maybe when we were out eating, in high school I was pretty much absent 80 % of the time. No, Yeah, I was - Yeah, so I was was it? Video games, training, or - Yeah, so, yeah. I was in honors classes, was in like, rotary clubs, I was on student council, I was doing musicals, I was like, doing a lot of stuff already.

Jeremy (24:00.362)

Yeah, I was in honors classes, was in like, robbery clubs, was in student council, I was doing, you know, musicals, I was like, doing a lot of stuff already. These, these two things are a dive into me. The good kid, when you weren't there. It was crazy just thinking about it, because I had, you know, truancy twice. I was in trouble real bad twice. - You're wrong about that. That must have So,

Jeremy (24:10.351)

These two things are the same thing. Yeah, and then it was never there, man. Like, it was crazy just thinking about it because I had, you truancy twice. I was in trouble real bad that twice. like this. do you think about that? that, I tried to downplay because I was like, no. man. No, it's not that bad. I'm just gonna go talk to them

Jeremy (24:30.004)

I tried them down the way, because I was like, no. man. That was not that bad. I'm just going to go and talk to them about, you know, got to work at it. going to be having trouble. She was angry about that. But I think the school, the teachers, they all knew what I was capable of, and they all knew where I was at. They knew I was testing well at anyways, and they knew how I learned. took their

Jeremy (24:38.184)

You know I gotta go to court, gotta come with me, I'm in trouble. Yeah, she was angry about that. I think the school, the teachers, they all knew what I was capable of and they all knew where I was at. They knew I was testing well anyways and they what I learned. So they took their time when I came by just to chat with them that we were talking about science class, were talking about history, we talked

Jeremy (25:00.352)

When it came by just to chat with you, that we were talking about science class, were talking about history, we were talking about what we needed to talk about. And that's how I picked up the hub. If you sit down in class and you're talking and everyone's there, I'm like, over it, and then I feel this excruciating pain to get up to leave. I'm like, I'm so sorry, I can't do this. But without those people understanding my issue, I probably would have went down

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what we needed to talk about. And that's how I picked everything up. Because if you sit down in class and you're talking and everyone's there, I'm like moving over and then I feel this excruciating just pain to get up to leave. And I'm like, I'm so sorry, I can't do this. But without those people understanding my issue, I probably would have went down a bad road. I could have been in real bad trouble. But yeah, dropping college, he was like, that's probably for the best.

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I could have been in real bad trouble. yeah, dropping college, she was like, that's probably for the best. You can do other things. And looking at any path I wanted to take, didn't need college as much. General education, all the years spent in United, that wasn't for me. yeah, she was all right with that. She was cool with it. I was just the expectation that was given.

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You can you're able to do other things and looking at any career path. I wanted to take I didn't need college as much general education cool, but all the years spending you know, didn't that was for me, but Yeah, she was alright. She was cool with it. was just just the Expectation that was given and the pressure Around that time was college is everything you gotta go to college. You're gonna end up a loser. You're do this that

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sure around that time was and that was the battle like yeah I don't want to be a loser and that was a hard part to fight but I've always had this what I got from my instructor this say delusion but this ability to when you're down to think I'm freaking awesome like who am I

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And that was the battle of like, man, I don't want to be a loser. And that was a hard part to fight. But I've always had this, what I got from my instructor and my dad, this, say delusion, but this ability to, when you're down to think, I'm freaking awesome. who am I? I'm Jeff Goodrum. that mindset of when I hit the rock bottom, when I get, you know, if I'm under someone, they're about to tap me out or I'm, you know,

Jeremy (26:28.866)

Like that mindset of when I hit the rock bottom, I get it, you know, if under someone, they're about to tap me out or I'm, you know, just dizzy from a hit. That small little flame of who are you? Then you continue. So going through that mindset, you're going to be like, I don't need a degree. I'm freaking awesome. Like that helped me get myself out of that and my friends that were with me at the time too. But yeah.

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dizzy from a hit. That small little flame of, who are you? And then you continue. So going through that mindset and then thinking, I'm Jeff. I don't need a degree. I'm freaking out. Like that helped me pull myself out of that and my friends that were with me at the time too. yeah, the transitioning from school kid or college kid

Jeremy (26:57.364)

the transitioning from school kid or college kid to just some random guy doing karate at the park was a little different. It was a journey, it was cool. At the park training on your own? Just anywhere. If you had a park, yeah. Just doing it. Is that what you were filling your days with? Training anytime I could, yeah. So I was going to sleep or work. What you doing for work? I let that time out. Like an electronics guy, I worked it.

Jeremy (27:03.098)

But just some random guy doing karate at the park was a little different. But it was a journey, it was cool. At the park training in the middle of Anywhere. He had a park, had a gym. Any time I could, yeah. So I was in his sleep, or at work. Where did you go to work? At that time I was in electronic sky at Target. So I was a nerd. And you know, games. yeah, I was in the ranch! yeah!

Jeremy (27:25.622)

I was a nerd, so they put me where the nerds go. you know, video games. I can see you in a red shirt. I look good in red, man. I was like, yeah. We've talked about games all day. But I was focusing on training and just trying to learn as much as could. Because I did know, was like, man, I'm black. And I feel like I lack right now. I feel like I have a constant empty tank of things I need full of more martial art knowledge. So that really drove me to do that, too.

Jeremy (27:33.315)

I talk to everyone about games all day, but yeah, I was just focusing on training and just trying to learn as much as I could. Because I did know, was like, man, I'm lacking. I feel like I lack right now. I feel like I have a constant empty tank of things I need full of more martial art knowledge. that really drove me to do that too. But yeah, it was a good time there. So what's next on the list? Next, man. So

Jeremy (27:56.374)

Yeah, it was a good time there. So what's next? Next, man. my mission in general, because you know, was video games, know, anime. My mission was to help with the kids that started like me that don't have, that didn't have a sports system like I did. Like literally autopilot till 20 something. I'm stupid. I'm a stupid person. And if I didn't have all these people.

Jeremy (28:04.07)

Mission in general, because you know, was video games, know, anime. My mission was to help with kids that started like me that don't have, that didn't have a support system like I did. Like, literally autopilot till 20 something. I'm, I'm stupid. I'm a stupid person. And if I didn't have all these people hold me together, things would have been bad. So I really want that support for kids that don't have it.

Jeremy (28:25.698)

together things would have been bad so I really want that for kids that don't have it. When did that become a conscious thing that you wanted to do? When was that like hmm I want to right because a lot of time when I talk with someone we can look through and in hindsight see that that stuff was creeping in and becoming more important but at some point that light bulb has to turn off.

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So I want to go... When was that like, when that water... When this water time when I talk with someone, we can kind of look through it and in hindsight see that that stuff is creeping in and being even more important, but at some point that light bulb has to turn off. Man, so growing up in my hometown doing all these demos and all this stuff, I did have a lot of kids that saw me flipping and kicking.

Jeremy (28:56.008)

Man, so growing up in my hometown, doing demos and all that stuff, had a lot of kids that saw me flipping and kicking and thought I was awesome. And I was like, yeah, I like being a hero. When I did training, they did what they were told. And they were open to doing what, to the training and thinking differently and, know, yes or no, falling in line and really, you know, just becoming better.

Jeremy (29:03.84)

And I was like, yeah, I like being a hero. And then when I did train them, they did what they were told. And they were open to doing what, you know, to the training and thinking differently and, know, yes or no sir, falling in line and really, you know, just becoming better. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, so I can do this with these kids. And, you know, if I come at this point of view,

Jeremy (29:25.664)

I was like, whoa, whoa, so I can do this with these kids. And you know, like at this point of view of, you know, an instructor trying to, and not just stay into martial arts, but just trying to mentor them as well. I can help out with these kids. And it did creep up on me because I didn't see how I had it until I looked back at my life, like my 20s, like, and I

Jeremy (29:32.279)

you know, instructor trying to, and not just staying in the martial arts, but just trying to mentor them as well. I can help out with all these other kids. And it did creep up on me because I didn't see how I had it until I looked back on my life, like in my 20s. Like, man, I was just really fortunate because I have family down in Mexico that aren't.

Jeremy (29:55.606)

just really fortunate because I have family down in Mexico that aren't living like me and that are able to go there and then just being in those areas, I can see other people that look like me that are doing worse and watching them and listening to their stories. Everything started, you when they were kids. And also up in New York, my family's up there too. Lower income areas, you get the same stories.

Jeremy (30:01.46)

living like I am and then I'm able to go there and then just being in those areas I can see other people that look like me that we're doing worse and watching them and listening to their stories. Everything started, you know, when they were kids. And also up in New York, my family's up there too, lower income areas, you get the same stories of like tragedy, tragic beginnings. And I'm like, the only way things are gonna get better.

Jeremy (30:24.884)

tragedy tragic beginnings and I'm like the only way things are gonna get better is if we start with the kids. That's it. They're awesome. Trade them. Mexico, it was really hard because they just seen people outside. Not alive. The sun

Jeremy (30:31.508)

And if we start with the kids, that's it. They're awesome. Trade them. But in Mexico, it was really hard because they just seeing people outside, homeless, not alive, suffered because the sun giving them cancer on their head and scalp and body. And that's where they just laid there and died. That was it.

Jeremy (30:54.42)

Yeah, so they just got off party of messes where they just laid there and died. That was

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really humbled me because I'm like, I come back here and I'm like, I have it great. I don't have any complaints. I may be behind on my student debt or my car got towed, but man, it's, I'm doing awesome. Like no matter what. yeah. And then, and the world I was in when I was in Manhattan and when I moved to Kansas City finally was still in the upper income worlds where people

Jeremy (31:01.684)

really hopeful for me because I'm like, I come back here and I'm like, great, don't have any complaints. mean, behind on my student debt or my car got managed. I'm doing awesome. Like, matter what, whole different set of problems. Yeah. And then, in the world I was in when I was in Manhattan and city finally was still in the upper world where people

Jeremy (31:31.489)

I had no idea what's going on down in the lower income areas. that was like, man, that blew my mind. Just meeting people that have never, like me it was weird. Meeting someone that's never been in a fight, never been punched, who's never been hungry, who's never been scared for the life, who's never been threatened by an adult when they were kids, who's never like, meeting people like that for me was like, whoa, am I broken? Am I different? Like,

Jeremy (31:32.028)

no idea what's going on in And that was like, man, that was just meeting people that have never been fight, who's never been touched, who's never been hungry, who's never been scared for the life, who's never been threatened by an adult, kids who have been like, meeting people like that, for me, was like, am I broken? Am I different?

Jeremy (32:00.37)

So that really pushed me even harder to go off where not seeing where I'm needed, but where I think I can make a better impact on at least some. Just trying first had my team here in Kansas City. My, my mom's almost like a like free training day. I was always training in a park. went to loose park multiple times, just with a buddy or two also trained in martial arts and we would, you know, practice forms, flips.

Jeremy (32:00.51)

So that really pushed me even harder to go off where I'm needed, where I can make a better impact on at least someone. And how did you start implementing that? Just trying, first had my team here in Kansas City. What do you mean by team? Almost like a free training day. I was always training at the park, so I went to Loose Park multiple times just with a buddy or two. March parks, would practice full rooms, flips.

Jeremy (32:30.335)

kicks and spar and slowly people were watching and like, I don't know. Like, did I come with you guys? Yeah, we don't train the same at all. We're just, yeah, we do martial arts and then slowly building that team like that and becoming great friends from there. But, and those team members also came with similar backgrounds. So we're gonna film single parents, know, tragedies, PTSD, all that stuff. And showing them like, yo, we start them now.

Jeremy (32:30.442)

kicks and spar and slowly people just watching and like, I don't wanna, like, you guys, you know, them at all. We're just, yeah, we do martial arts and then slowly building that, great friends from there. But, and those team members, see what backgrounds, story comes, parents, know, tragedies, like all that stuff. you we start now.

Jeremy (33:00.351)

they're gonna be 10 billion times better than us. Like, some of these kids are like gifted with, you know, athletics too. I wasn't. I was a little thick kid, short, not, I mean, I guess I was somewhat coordinated, but I was not the fittest dude in the world. But these kids are like at this level of, you know, their fitness, that they're, like we just train them and teach them and show them.

Jeremy (33:00.5)

They're going be ten years older than us. Like, some of these kids are like gifted with, you know, athletics too. I wasn't. I was a little thick, shorter. Not, I mean, I guess I was somewhat thin -headed, I was not the fittest dude in the world. But these kids are like at this level of, you their fitness. That they're, like we just train them and teach them and show them that you have

Jeremy (33:28.733)

that you have this gift, that is enough hope to get them dreaming again. So that was key. But also even the kids that don't have the ability to run up and walk back look immediately. Show them that there's more to life than just what you're doing, all the negativity that you have going on. Come to the dojo, come to the park, and have this fellowship of people that love doing the same thing you're doing too. And then also teaching kids how to be heroes.

Jeremy (33:30.036)

gift, that is enough hope to get them drinking again. So that was key. But also even the kids that don't have the ability to run up on do backflip immediately, show that there's more to life than just what you're doing. The negativity that you're going on. Come to the dojo, come to the park, and have this fellowship with people that love doing the same thing you're doing too. And then also teaching kids how to be heroes.

Jeremy (33:59.054)

That's the biggest thing. Everyone wants to be a hero, teaching kids that is... I'm not teaching kids that. Letting kids pursue that is key. Because a lot of people growing up kind of drop it. Like I've been in many situations where a fight's about to break out or someone's yelling at them. Someone that's working or just super dark stuff and no one does a thing. No one. And I'm like, where'd all the freaking heroes go?

Jeremy (33:59.196)

That's the biggest thing. Everyone wants to be a hero, teaching kids that is... I'm not teaching kids that. Letting kids pursue that is key. Because a lot of people growing up kind of drop it. Like I've been in many situations where a fight's about to break out or someone's yelling at someone that's working. It's super just dark stuff. No one does a thing. No one. Not only we're all the freaking heroes.

Jeremy (34:28.202)

no one here and I don't want that in the future. I want people to be able to speak up. You don't have to be violent. Just speak up. That's all it takes. One person speak up, the next person will speak up and that's how I want that fire to be lit. Because I do it on my own too. Like I'll be like, know, a little, like I'll be at a McDonald's which I don't recommend going to. I was weak, but I was at

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No one here, man. I don't want that in the future. want people to be able to speak up. You don't have be violent. Just speak up. That's all it takes. One person to speak up and the expression to speak up and that's how I want that fire to be lit. Because I do it on my own too. Like I'll be like, know, a little, get, I'll be at a McDonald's, which I don't recommend going to. I was, I was waiting, but I was

do was they were at this lady behind the desk and just going crazy and just cussing her out. Hey hey my man, it's Monday, chill. And that's all it took. And he just, it is Monday. And he just chilled and you know, you just need someone to chill with. That's all it takes. doesn't mean you're a bad person just because you blew up. He might have had the suckiest day of his life. You don't know that.

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And I was like, hey, hey, my man, it's Monday, chill. And that's all it took. And he just, it is Monday. And he just chilled and, you know, got a suck of black. Yes, that's all it takes. Everyone messes up. Doesn't mean you're a bad person just because you blew up. He might've had a suckiest day, the suckiest upbringing. Yeah.

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in people's lives, right? You know, like, I think about some of the days I've had where absolutely horrible things have happened and, you know, maybe I wasn't at McDonald's and I didn't cuss out the woman behind the counter, but I certainly did some things in ways that I wouldn't have been able to do if it hadn't for that. Exactly. And you can't blame yourself for being a two -year, you know, we're human, but I just think people should try to learn. Everyone comes from a different background, even if you don't agree with

Jeremy (35:26.281)

Exactly. Absolutely horrible things happened. You maybe I wasn't at McDonald's and I didn't cut out the woman behind the counter, but I certainly did some things in ways that I wouldn't have handled in that way if it had for that. Exactly. And, know, you're separate from your teachers, you're human. But yeah, think people should try to learn. Everyone comes from a different background. Like, even if you don't agree with someone.

religion or politics, whatever, you know, everyone comes from a different place. And if they mess up, you kind of just forgive them. You do the same thing too, so. One of the things I try to remind myself is if I was born to their parents, I would be done. Yeah. Right? Because I would have their genetics, which is going to predispose a lot of things. And then I'd also have their upbringing, which is the rest. sometimes people try to push back. No, no, no.

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religion or politics or whatever, you know what? Everyone comes from different place and if they mess up, you kind of just forget about it. You do the same thing too. So one of the things I try to remind myself is if I was born to their parents, I would be them. Because I would have their genetics, which is going to predispose a lot of things. And then I'd also have their upbringing, which is the rest. sometimes people will try to push back and go, no,

You would. If you were that person, you would be that person. You'd be right there. yeah, the main reason why people get stuck in their own beliefs too is because of the network that they have. And if they do lose it, the network's gone. So it's like, they're holding on to something too, and you can't blame them for being a certain way. So that's where think, know, Shochin. Student mindset. One of the spirits of Buddha and all this. That made me become less of a hothead.

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Yeah, if you were that person, you would be that person. You'd be right there. yeah, main reason why people pick stuff in their own beliefs is because of network that they have. And if they do lose it, they lose the network size. So it's like, they're building on something too, and you can't blame them for being thrown away. So that's why I'm to show you. Student mindset, one of the students who went on the notes. That made me become blessed of a hothead who

Cause I wouldn't say I a high -schooler or not, but I certainly would enjoy fighting. Like, like I said, I'm an anime. So that was bad. Like if there was a fight about to happen, I'd be like, we want to fight? I don't want to do this, but no, sit there and stretch. But if we got to fight now, we'll do it. Like we'll do this. And I would, I would always welcome a fight, even if there was a disagreement. And I was like, we're cool now, but you still want to fight, right?

Jeremy (36:54.4)

Because I wouldn't say I'm a fighter, but I certainly would enjoy fighting. Like I said, I'm an anime. So that was bad. If there was a fight about to happen, everybody like, you want to fight? I don't want to do this. And I would sit there and stretch my But if we got to fight now, we'll do this. And I would always want to fight, even if there was a disagreement. And I was like, we're fighting. But you still want to fight, right?

Jeremy (37:23.108)

I mean, we don't have to. like, that means you brought it up. We'll go light. Like I was always, always in play mode. So, yeah, that was huge on me to think like, man, I probably should stop being that guy that's always ready to like, even if I'm not mad, like, you wanna fight? Yeah, let's go. Or, you know, at least now if something happens, I'll give him my card. Like if you want to train, here's my card. Come train with us. So, somehow that helps me

Jeremy (37:23.374)

We don't have to. like, You brought it up. We'll go light. I was always in play mode. yeah, that was huge on me to think like, I probably should not be the guy that's always ready to like, even if I'm not mad, like, you go to fight, you can't just go. Or at least now if something happened, I'll give you my card. Like, if you want to train, use my card, just come train with us. So somehow that helps me with

Jeremy (37:52.323)

level headed but but yeah that whole Shoshin student mindset helped me just like hey yeah there's so many possibilities also another thing I practice would be like I don't know where I got it from I forgot think of three things if something bad happens and you just tick immediately you get that flash immediately think of three things of why this person did that like they meant to hurt you they're they just

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level headed but but yeah that that whole show should just student mindset follow me just like yeah there's so many possibilities also another thing I like I don't know where I got it from I think of three things there's something that happened immediately get that flash immediately think of three things why this person did that like they meant to hurt their they just don't like

Jeremy (38:20.815)

don't like your face, like, you know, just that, and then think of a positive thing, or think of something that's not so negative, why that happened, when you get cut off, immediately on the road, you're thinking, this jerk, but no, my head, I'm like, okay, let's think, they might just not be a good driver, they might, you know, they might wanna cut me off, because they don't like the color of my car, like, think of all the stuff that would, you know, make me angry, and then think, maybe they're on the way.

Jeremy (38:22.132)

like, you know, just that and then think of a positive thing of, or think of something that's not so negative on why that happened. Like, when you get cut off, immediately on the road, you're thinking all this, but now in my head, I'm like, okay, let's think. They might just not be a good driver. They might, you know, they might want to me off because they don't like my color of my car. think of all the stuff that would, you know, make me angry and then think, maybe they're on the way to the

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to the hospital, maybe they have a kid in the back that's being loud, maybe they're stressed, then, yeah. Exactly. And it diffuses that hot flash of anger that I get. I'm good now. But yeah, that's a huge part of what I'm trying to train the kids to do as well. Like, you want to avoid fights, you gotta not be in your own head.

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Maybe they have a kid in the back that's been allowed, maybe they're stressed, they're... They didn't really have to use the Yeah, that's huge. If I assume someone had a bad burrito that day and they need to get home, it changes the way I think. And it diffuses that hot flash of anger that I get. But yeah, that's a huge part of what I'm trying to train the kids to as well. If you want to avoid a fight, you gotta not be in your own head.

Jeremy (39:19.374)

go into their head and realize maybe you're the bad guy and you gotta be like, hey I'm sorry for saying that. I do that too, I'll sometimes, like I said ADHD sometimes I'll say something really dumb because you know sometimes the filter's not there. whoops I didn't mean it that way, the dress doesn't make you look bad. So that sounds like there's a... No it's not there.

Jeremy (39:19.488)

go into their head, realize maybe you're the backpacker the story. And you kind of be like, yeah, I'm sorry for saying that. I do that too. I'll sometimes say ADHD, and I'll say something really dumb because you know, sometimes the filter's not there. Whoops, I didn't mean it that way. The dress doesn't make sense. Sounds like there's a specific scenario. We're not going to go, we're not going to go there.

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Karen's dying over there now. So kind of reading between the lines, you have a school now. How did you go from in the park saving youth to formalizing that? Man, was the winters. The weather was terrible. So I hated that we had to wait. We'd be at the training and we'd be to a point where like,

Jeremy (39:51.83)

So kind of reading between the lines, I knew this from yesterday, you have this problem, how did you go from in the park saving youth to formalizing that? Man, it was the winters. I hated that the weather was terrible. So I hated that we had to take breaks because we'd be out there training and it would be to a point where like, hey, we might get a frozen. Maybe this isn't healthy, maybe. How does it get here in the winter?

Jeremy (40:17.293)

feet are frozen maybe this is healthy maybe? How cold is it again? You're in the lab. I mean I know it's snowing. I mean like we're out there with our shoes and socks off in the grass while it's breezy and we're you know with that karate mentality we'll do this in ice. I know if it's healthy, I didn't look it up but maybe it's healthy. We should find a place that we would do our best to find different dojos.

Jeremy (40:22.283)

I mean, I know it's snow, so that helps. It's just, I mean, like, we're out there with our shoes and socks off in the grass while it's raining. And we're, know, with that karate mentality, like, yo, we can this. We do this in ice. But was like, maybe, I don't know if it's healthy. Like, I haven't looked it up, but maybe it's not healthy. It's nice. Cross -bite's not crazy. Yeah, and I like, we should find a place. So we would do our best to find different dojos that would accommodate people, just having us chill and train certain days.

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They just having us chill and train some days. And then we just started going around and we subleased from a place and we're pretty happy there for a while. was pretty cool. But the thing that we were missing was time because we only had one day on a Sunday during church hours. So we couldn't really get that many kids in there because you know, it was that time. yeah. And it's a Sunday and that's rest day.

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And then we just started. you are meeting even more people. Just going around and we stopped least from from a place and we're pretty happy that was pretty cool. But the thing that we were missing was the time we only had one day on Sunday during church hours. we couldn't really have any kids in there. You know, that time church was. yeah. it's a Sunday and that's rested. So we were.

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We were...

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One of the guys that were training with us found that spot and he also was just like trigger happy with, hey I found this place. I'm like cool, this meeting guy waiting for you right now. What? So I'd go talk to the police guy and you know at that point where I was like, if I don't do it now I'm not gonna do it, screw it. Even though the place was like trashed. I was like yeah, for how much? How about this number? Okay, alright cool. So I signed the lease and

Jeremy (41:22.314)

One of the guys that we were training with us found that spot and he also was just like, triggered happy with, hey, I found this place. I'm like, cool. There's a meeting guy waiting for you right now. What? So I go talk, you know, to this guy at that point. I was like, yeah, if I don't do it now, I'm not gonna do it. Screw it. Even though the place was like trashed. For how much? This number. Okay, very cool. So send a lease.

Jeremy (41:51.682)

From then on, was like, okay, I don't know anything about... Like I had a good idea on how to do things with electrical work. I was a security technician at the time with the home security. So I had a low voltage light and stuff like that. And I was like, I'm not really a carpenter or a plumber or any of that. So YouTube. So I got the team in there, we cleaned everything out.

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Then I was like, okay, I don't know anything about... I had a good idea on how to do things with electrical work. I was a security technician at the time with the home security. So had a low voltage license to mess with something. And I was like, I'm not really a carpenter or a plumber or any of that. So YouTube... I got the team and we cleaned everything out.

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YouTube. So one of my friends who actually does not work, know, would work helped out and we just made a springboard floor. We made the mats on the walls. like, I know what else we could make. At that moment I was in that obsessed, I can make anything with, if I have the tools, you know? So at that point we were just going through that and then we finally opened up and then I was like, I'm stupid with

Jeremy (42:22.486)

YouTube. So one of my friends who actually does know how to work helped out and we just made a springboard floor. We made the mats and walls. I was like, what else do need to make? At that moment I was in that obsessed, I can make anything if I have the tools. So at that point we were just going through that and we finally opened up and then I was like, I'm stupid with business.

Jeremy (42:50.964)

business. no. So I went to YouTube and then I went to a small business bureau or SBDC. know what they're called. I did a class with them and started forcing myself to learn these things that I had no idea. Insurance, all the safety with first aid, buyer stuff for the building, Max Machfinity stuff, marketing.

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no, so I went to YouTube and then I went to the Small Business Bureau, SPDC, forgot, I I can remember, did a class with them and started forcing myself to learn these things that I had no idea. Insurance, all the safety with first aid, buyer stuff for the building, maximum occupancy stuff, marketing.

I'm like just every little thing. I'm like, bro, this is too much. Actually, and let me to the audience out there, the small business development center at the CDC, there's at least one in every state. Probably the most underutilized resource because a lot of what we need as martial arts schools is not martial arts specific, right? I it's broad general data. And I'm actually on the board of small business development. And if I'm remembering my staff, I

Jeremy (43:21.506)

every little thing I was like bro this is too much

Within five years, 80 % of small businesses go out of business. But that number flips if they work with the Small Business Development Center coach, which is free. Yeah, it's all free. Like the class I took was eight hours. But that one wasn't free. The emails, the calls, there's so much great data.

Jeremy (43:52.086)

Within five years, all the systems would go out of business. But that number clips if they weren't the whole business development center coach. Which is great. Yeah, it's the classic people are, my gosh, that was a crazy line. that one was great because it was a big class, but everything else was free, the mentorship, the emails, the calls. There's so much great.

They're getting paid to do this for you take advantage so people need to go They're not gonna tell you how to teach them. They're gonna help you understand all the things like working with and legal regulation

Jeremy (44:21.105)

They're gonna tell you what to teach or how to teach it. They're gonna help you understand all the things like, leases, working with banks, navigating legal, government regulation, taxes, all that

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taxes, all that stuff. And since they haven't been working on who's doing what, where, they have the ability to get you in contact with someone that might help you out too. yeah, even just on a daily basis, I love it. I still use them every now and Just write certain things that I need help on because I'm not very bright with stuff. But getting help is... Knowing what you don't do is a great thing. Yeah, that's... And it's kind of stupid.

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And since they have a big network on who's doing what, they have the ability to get you in contact with people that might help you out. Yeah, even just on a network. I still use them as tricks and things. I'm not really good at stuff. But getting help is bright. Knowing what you don't know is bright. And it's kind of scary because you're like, there's, I don't

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I was same area with the government years back. They were business for 20 something years. over to Over Park and they doing really good. And also, the owner is also a dean at the So already he's a dean or something. So he's

Jeremy (45:21.137)

Even access for mentorship from a dojo that was in same area that I was in years back. they were in business for about 20 something years and moved over to West Virginia for a part and are doing really good. And also that owner is also a dean at a school. So already he's an educator. So he's just...

this, this, this, this is what you need this with. And he's teaching me, like, my gosh, okay. So I gotta come in and talk and learn and do this. So he's opened minds a lot. Just having different mentors. Cause I like said, there's, I think my machismo was holding me back on asking for help. And I don't mean, I don't mean to be like, have that kind of a machismo, but. But that's how we're raising more sure.

Quite often, okay, clear your bases. Figure this out. Especially with the portion of the education content you have. Well, it's very much around, yeah, here's the core stuff. I want you to develop who you are as a part. And that is in direct conflict with the business side of things, which you really shouldn't be figuring it out on your It's really difficult, because there's a lot more risk.

Jeremy (46:19.362)

off it's here your basics figure this out sounds like you had was very much yeah here more stuff but I want you to be more and that is with the business side of things which you really should be figuring it out on your you know really

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Yeah, there's not much room for it nowadays. But that's messing up. As soon as you all closed down, it's almost gonna be like that. It's that, it's just like that. And yeah, people smile, I do think. People need more education on that. There's a lot of stuff I didn't know that I could do. There's a lot of stuff that I didn't know that you could do that will benefit you that is almost like, I would say like, it's not under the table, but like just good new information.

Jeremy (46:49.568)

is missing out. As soon as I close down, someone's going to be right there the next day. It's just like that. And business -wise, do think people need more education on that in general. Because there's a lot of stuff I didn't know that I could do. There's a lot of stuff that I didn't know that you could do that is almost like, I would say, under the table, but just hidden information that people aren't getting.

Jeremy (47:17.527)

people aren't given and that's kind of sad but it's also layoff at least know now so if you have any issues I would definitely go dude check this out free tacos I definitely like that kind of thing this is is huge within the business world is knowing everyone finding mentorship and helping out even if it's for free like a different business person because you don't know what it is every YouTube channel is help you out most likely they will because a lot of business people

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And it's kind of sad, but it's also the only thing. Because I know now, if anyone has any issues, I'm going to definitely hold you to the cell phone, free talk to you say that kind of thing. This is huge. With the business world, there's no way I'm to finding my worship and help you out, even if it's for free, a different business person, because you don't know when they're going to turn around and help you out. Most likely, because a lot of business people, it takes a certain amount of time them to be that way.

Jeremy (47:46.216)

It takes a special kind of person to be that way. So if you're that kind of person, you're most likely going to help out. So for sure. So if anyone's wanting to open up a dojo, I recommend starting like, you know, start in a church, start in a community center, start, you know, and make sure you're in a spot. Start with no overhead start, somewhere you can deal with it. of the wind starting is how long are you guys in the church?

Jeremy (47:48.5)

So if you're that kind of person, you're most likely going to help out the next person. for sure. if anyone's wanting to help you out, then starting like, you know, start in a tree. Start in a community center. you know, and make sure you start high expensive. Start with a new board and start somewhere you can The biggest word I've ever heard is how long have you guys been turning? Six months? Yeah. And it's so to tell the community center where you're at.

Jeremy (48:14.62)

We're still at a community center each year. We're opening an additional location in other spots. There's nothing wrong. Even out of park, you might have some people that want to do some personal training for some private session. And they feel comfortable out of park. Or they feel comfortable in a dojo or a... The rent in a park is pretty compelling. You can chill all day. We've got free audiences too. Yeah. So, yeah, I would recommend definitely jumping

Jeremy (48:18.378)

and get an additional location in the first month. There's nothing wrong with Even at a park. My experience is when you first go on training, or first for private sessions, and they go a lot of work. When they go a lot work, and they don't go work, they're The rent at the park is pretty compelling. Just chill all day. have free audiences too. Yeah, would recommend definitely jumping on board on finding help whenever you need it. that Martial arts is a great way to it.

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whatever needed and that helped me out outside of martial arts too. Just like, I can ask for help and I might get it. The worst thing is they know exactly where I was beforehand. That's cool. People need to get more comfortable with being told no. yeah, yeah and that's hard. It hurts. It hurts until you realize it has nothing to do with you. Yup. It has everything to do with that. Yup. And that's the huge lesson that I didn't learn until way later. Way later in life.

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like, I can use it a help, and I might get it. And we're saying to each other exactly what it was before that. And that's cool. People need to get more comfortable being told no. yeah. And that's hard. is. It hurts. It hurts until you realize it has nothing to with you. Yup. It has everything to do with that. Yup. And that's a huge lesson that I didn't learn until way later. Way later in life. But if you knew, I missed all of you out there. If you knew that...

Jeremy (49:12.876)

If you knew, and this is for all of you out there, if you knew that only one out of every hundred people that you invited to come train in your school or come buy your product or your service, if you knew exactly one out of every 100 would say yes, what would your business plan be? Ask as many people as possible. Yeah. I want 10 new students. I need to ask a thousand new people.

Jeremy (49:17.814)

only one out of every hundred people that you invited to drink or come by your product or service, if you knew exactly one out of every 100 would say yes, what would your business be? Ask me. I want to introduce you to so I need to ask a thousand new people. But the conversion rate is better than that. So why not ask new people? Exactly.

Jeremy (49:42.348)

But the conversion rate's usually better than that. So why not ask 100 people? To be out there. that's one of the hardest things for me. The time to market, the time to teach, demonstrate, fix, clean, all that. It's just, so asking for help. Different coaches come in and do different things. Cause I, I could at see different people too now. So. This is sounding a bit familiar. So I'll, you know, I post it up different times that.

Jeremy (49:47.776)

be out there. One of hardest things for me is time to market, teach, demonstrate, fix, clean, all that. It's just, so asking for help, different coaches come in and different things. I, I still believe it's different from people too now. So this is sounding a bit familiar. I posted up different times that, you know, young entrepreneurs want to teach yoga, want to teach, you know, their martial art or

Jeremy (50:11.892)

know, young entrepreneurs want to teach yoga, want to teach their martial arts, or just whatever they want to do, at a good rate come and train. Like, just pick a time slot and we'll keep you going. How many different people do you have teaching classes for? Right now, I have two. Before that, had more, but it's that drop -off weight, because it's always going to be that new type of young person. they want to try it. then it's dropping. Yeah, so. it's hard to try to

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just whatever they want to do. At a good rate, come and drink, like just pick a time slot and we'll keep it going. Right now, I have two, beforehand I have four, it's that drop off week. It's always going to be the new type of university. People come in and out and drop in. And you've got your own students. And it's hard to try to like, I don't want to be what's your marketing look like?

Jeremy (50:42.045)

I don't want to be like, coming during this time, then what's your marketing look like? Like, I don't want to be that kind of guy, like, look, I'm gonna mentor you while you're here. Like, I just want to show them, like, they, you gotta start somewhere. You can't do everything for me. Nope, somebody, this is cool. If you have any questions, me up. Everything you do, as long as you're cool. Nothing bad, it's to stick with work. And we're set, and yeah, that's big thing, too. The legal stuff. Yep. That was, that was weird. That was, I'm not very smart at that, either. So I had to help on that.

Jeremy (50:47.412)

I'm gonna mentor you while you're here. I just wanna tell you, you gotta start somewhere. You can't do everything. This is cool if you have any questions. Do everything you do. Nothing bad, it's just more sad. The legal stuff. That was weird. I'm not very smart. Try to get it. And the legal length.

Jeremy (51:11.76)

Again, SBDC. And the legal language is just Shakespeare to me. I'm like, alright, whatever, I don't know what this is, but I guess you can come to work out or whatever. yeah. But yeah, lot of, hopefully in the future, with you expanding the space we have, I want more room to have more kids come in, even more adults. I do

Jeremy (51:17.512)

Shakespeare to me. I guess you can work out a lot of a hopefully I want more kids come in and more I do like like I started off like adults work because it's easier to

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Like I started off liking teaching the adults more because it's just easier to like, do that. can't, okay, cool. You can explain it to me like an adult, we know. The kids, even though you don't have that, I want more of the kids in there. I'm happier training them. If a couple of adults go missing in a class, like they just don't show up, I'm cool with it. A couple of kids, I'm like, what's going on? What are they doing? Are they okay? Like, so I'd rather have them there. But I do want to eventually...

Jeremy (51:45.95)

explain it to me like an adult, know, the kids you know you don't have that. I want more of the kids in there, that feels I'm happier training them. If go missing in class, like they just don't show up. Cool, if kids are coming home, they're okay, so I'd rather be there. But I do want my kids to be, that'd be great, like school programs, more open meds, more time for it.

Jeremy (52:08.239)

That'd be great if I could just full -time, after school programs, more open mats, more time for anyone to come in and just work out, you know, roll around. So that'll be the goal in the future, if I can get a bigger spot. Well, my inclusion is going to be great to have. Like every hour that school is not in use, there's an opportunity for somebody that wants that space. Home school group doesn't have to be martial arts. Somebody's will.

Jeremy (52:16.566)

work out. that'll be your goal. think you're going find a big spot. Thanks. my encouragement is don't be afraid to leverage the spot that you have. Every hour that's not in use, there's an opportunity. There's somebody that wants that space. Home school group doesn't have to be first -class. Somebody's willing, if you're not using that space, and they clean up after themselves, and they pay you $12 an hour, do it. You don't have anything else.

Jeremy (52:37.67)

If you're not using that space and they clean up after themselves and they pay you $12 an hour, do it. You don't have anything else to do it because it gets them in the door and you can mark it to them. And they always end when they remark me like, like I was even like bringing children to come do stuff. There's not a gymnasium. How many places with spring floors? You want to start doing stuff and back.

I'm not gonna teach it, but it's pretty please be kind to do it. But yeah, I'm really wanting to get all that future plans that we're doing up coming up pretty soon. We're gonna finish some renovations and then go crazy with 15 different community groups, probably do a couple of demos, which I'm not sure how I wanna do a demo these days. haven't done one since like old school karate where I would get a watermelon slice off my stomach kind of thing. So I don't know.

Jeremy (53:06.966)

I'm not going to teach you, it's a perfect place for you guys to come do it. But yeah, I really wanted to do all that. We're doing a of coming up pretty soon. We're going do some renovations. then crazy with 15 different community groups, schools, probably deal with the MMOs, which I'm not sure about. I'm going to do different these days. I've been downloading since like old school Friday. I'm get us watermelon sliced off my stomach kind of thing. So I don't know what people want.

Jeremy (53:36.004)

What people want to see now, so... I know that. I don't know that I actually know that. But that's okay. Try different stuff and see what happens. Yeah, have no idea, but I was thinking about, it'd be fun if I went to like different public stores and did some mitt work or just like mess around sparring or just disrupt. Just go somewhere and disrupt. Just go crazy. And legally do it. I don't...

Jeremy (53:36.822)

I don't I can answer that. But it's okay. Try different stuff and see what happens. Yeah, no idea. I was thinking about it. It'd be funny if I went to different public stores and did some mint work or just mess around sparring. Just disrupt. Just go somewhere and just go crazy.

Jeremy (54:04.452)

I don't know what the martial arts equivalent would be, but I've seen these videos that pop up on TikTok, and I know your own TikTok, it's for YouTube Connect, right? And I find these so compelling, and it's this group of like half a dozen guys, and they wheel a basketball hoop around a city, and they throw the ball at random people, and they rate the shot at a 10. And so sometimes they throw the ball at people, and they're

Jeremy (54:06.262)

would be, but I hear these videos that pop up on TikTok, I know you're on TikTok, because that's how YouTube connects, right? And I find these compelling, and it's this group of like half a dozen guys, and they wheel a basketball hoop around a city, and they roll the ball randomly, and they rate the shot out of 10. And so sometimes they take the ball, and they're like, yeah, and they base it off their face, and they're go out of town!

Jeremy (54:33.167)

it bounces off their face and they're like, one out of ten. And then once in a while somebody will see it, catch it, and they actually know how to play, and they'll drop the shot and everybody loses their money, But there's something really authentic about that. I don't know how you do that, but that would be cool. Maybe it's a board, maybe you get thin boards made of and you come up to people and you're... We've actually been talking about this in my school

Jeremy (54:36.686)

And once in a while, somebody will see it, catch it, and they actually know about it. they drop the shot, and it was dropped like that. And there's nothing really authentic about that. I don't know how you do that. But that would be cool. Maybe it's a board, maybe you get like thin boards made up. damn. We've actually been talking about this in high school. If you give someone like a pen or pencil and say, hold this as tight as you can, they can go.

Jeremy (55:00.952)

If you give someone like a pen or a pencil, it's like hold this as tight as you can. They make a perfect fist. So if you give them like a short half a pen, hold that as tight as you can, put these two knuckles through this board, bam, they do it. Right? Like you could teach someone how to break this, by all means, steal that idea. And you film that? And you could do that solo. Walk around with a backpack of boards.

Jeremy (55:06.23)

So if you give them like a half pen, hold that as tight as you can, and you that solo.

Jeremy (55:29.623)

Okay, you need two. I'm not thinking like pinky, even headband. I was thinking yeah. Did you teach any games? No, because I did at first. also... doesn't seem to be your vibe. It's just too hot. You know, the AC, I'm the dad too. that's my mom. if that bill goes up, I'm like, nah, we're gonna keep it a little... That's good in here. That's bad, that's Dad's favorite.

Jeremy (55:36.663)

No, because... It didn't seem to be your vibe. It's just... You know, see I'm like dad too, so I'm the temperature that's low, you know? it just... Bill goes up, I'm like, nah. You gotta keep a little split in here. Eventually I might get back to a different spot.

Jeremy (55:59.008)

You're not the only one cracking them. Eventually I might get back if we go to different spot. It'd be easy to keep cool maybe, but right now I'm like, nah, I get, I am the, I am so sweaty. I sweat all the time. So, I'm sitting in the key, I'm just wrenched inside. like, yeah, and lunged. You know how many keys? You know how hard it is to? I do. No, I can't do. Shorts in compression pants. Just toss it around, just walk it out easy, but right now our uniforms are pretty much our shirt.

Jeremy (56:05.588)

Now, I am the... so sweaty all time. I sweat all the time. So, if I'm sitting in the key, I'm just dredging the side my... Yeah, and laundry. You know how many keys are there? No, can't. Shorts, sink, compression pants... can toss that around and just pop it out easy, right now, I'm almost pretty much... I'm not sure. But compression pants, shorts, and shorts... If you can't do compression pants, then that's okay.

Jeremy (56:28.354)

compression pants or shorts and shorts in general. If you can't do compression pants, that's okay too, but we just try to minimize, just minimize everything. And what are your curriculum? Are you using that string for a lot? yeah, I'm throwing it around like crazy. our curriculum is pretty, I started off looking at what kind of black belt do I want? Like what kind of black belt do I want? Start up here.

Jeremy (56:35.446)

but we just try to minimize. And what is your curriculum using that spring floor? Throwing them around like crazy. curriculum is pretty, started off, what kind of black belt do you need? What kind of black belt do you want to start with? Start up here, and then I'm thinking, what I want, what the key is.

Jeremy (56:58.294)

And then I'm thinking also what I want, what the community needs, how efficient am I, like how can I get, what skills do I have, and try to see what I can build. So in that area, CADA won't really help those kids as much. It really, it just, it takes too long to train them. The lessons they learned in CADA would be nice to have, but I'm gonna prioritize the other.

Jeremy (57:04.982)

how efficient am I, can I get, know, what are the skills I have, and try to see what I can build. that area, auto won't really help those kids as much. It really, it just, it takes too long.

The lessons that you get in CADA, I it's to have, but prioritize the other stuff. I'll always visit CADA and I always expect things from my lookers. Be the nerd of karate, make sure they know about it. But I'm on the pace of creating a kit for any practitioner. So you can go down the route of, know, fighting in ring.

Jeremy (57:29.226)

I'll always visit Todd and I'll always explain things to him and I'll always be the nerd about karate and let them, you know, you know, make sure they know about it. But I'm on the pace of creating a kid for any practitioner to either go down the route of being able to fight in a ring, be able to train other people, to be able to perform for films.

Jeremy (57:51.158)

train other people to be able to perform for films. I'm going to try to make the best athlete I can, but I know it's like that that venturing that martial artist is going to fight and that goal to teach someone to fight is also to teach them to protect them against, you know, that trauma of being able see it in forms of being beat up or getting attacked or just not having the confidence that I'm really focused on building up these

Jeremy (57:55.904)

I'm going to try to make the best athlete I can, but I know inside that Venn diagram that martial artist is going to be able to fight and that goal to teach them to fight is also to teach them to protect them against that trauma of PTSD or just getting beat up or getting attacked or just not having any confidence. So I'm really focused on building up these little guys to be monsters, but the monsters that protect

Jeremy (58:21.382)

to be monsters, but the monsters that protect everyone else too. I don't know if you were intended to bring that full circle. but you did. It was great. Monster under the bed to becoming a monster. Yeah, that's that's controlling. Yeah, it's powerful. Teaching them emotions too. Like sometimes the kids will cry and try to hide from me. Crying?

Jeremy (58:26.302)

So, even if you were intended to be a circle, you can be a human. It's great. You monster under the bed to becoming the most human. Yeah, and that's, you you control it. And teach them the emotions too. Like, sometimes the kids will cry and they'll try to hide from me and I'm like, Hey, are you crying? And they're like, no. Do you want to cry?

Jeremy (58:51.562)

Do you want to Do you want to So teaching that is a gift.

Jeremy (58:55.166)

And I was like, it's okay if you do, cry. And they're like, what? Like everyone cries, buddy. Like, we all cry. Do you want to cry? Come here, you're good. So teaching them that is huge because that's a negative to them. That's bad. And also teach them when they're mad. when I'm, for me, I grew up liking the fight. I love fighting. But I found out I like it more outside the ring.

Jeremy (59:11.464)

when they're mad. Like, when I'm, for

I love fighting, but I found out I like it more on both sides of me. It's like, ooh, that's some good stuff. That's some organic, it's got a lot of stuff. So... I just recognized it. Yeah, that was... I was like, man, I gotta... But training that side of me helps me control it more. I love the rush, I love all this, but if I don't work on it, it's strong.

Jeremy (59:24.369)

And that's like, ooh, that's like some sit stuff. That's the Anakin Skywalker stuff. So yeah, that was, it took a minute and I was like, man, I gotta work on this. But training that side of me helps me control it more. Like I love the rush, the adrenaline. I love all of this, but if I don't work on it, it is stronger than me. So I work on the good parts of, you know, being positive, being a good person. But like if I get attacked,

Jeremy (59:47.444)

I work on the good parts of being positive, a good person, but if I get attacked, I can draw from the other side of my boat. Now I can explore this other side of me and bring in what I can do. I'm not being able to control anything. When you're fighting, you're just not going all the way. You're still calm, still thinking, but you're still enjoying the moments. that shields you from the fear and the trauma.

Jeremy (59:53.895)

then it's like I can draw to the other side or I'm like, game time. Now I can explore this other side of me and then rein in when I need to. So being able to control that anger when you're fighting, it's not going all out. You're still calm and still thinking, but you're still enjoying the moment. And that shields me from the fear and the trauma and the scariness of everything else that's behind a violent interaction. most of

Jeremy (01:00:17.93)

the scariness of the violence behind the violent interactions. Most of these kids, or even most the kids I train with, suffer from PTSD. They're in gunshots all the time. get scene fights, everything. The scene body is under sheets that are, you deceased. having that ability to not shrug it off, to cope with it, rather than to break.

Jeremy (01:00:23.877)

kids or most of the coaches I trained with suffered from PTSD hearing gunshots all the time in their room. I'm seeing fights every day, seeing bodies under sheets that are deceased. Having that ability to not shrug it off, but to cope with it rather than to break is strong because that's how you build a better community too. get the PTSD, you get all this

Jeremy (01:00:46.672)

is strong because you get the pts you get all those negatives then you get the bad drugs violence and stuff in general you teach that you less likely to you know politics doing stuff like that that's huge for me i've never had any sort of substance i've never i've never drank

Jeremy (01:00:53.348)

Then you get the bad way to cope with it, which would be drugs, violence, and just bad stuff in general. You teach that coping mechanism, shield them from that bad stuff. Less likely they're going to refer to being alcoholics, doing stuff like that. And that's huge. For me, I've never had an issue with any sort of substance. I've never drank alcohol my whole life. So just promised my mom and dad, like, yeah, going to promise I'm not going to smoke or drink.

Jeremy (01:01:17.054)

I just promised my mom that to be I promised my mom that I going the dream. I'm going fight though. I'm to fight a whole lot. So, but I mean, it's balanced out. hopefully I'm to a better myself. Yeah. So, having had a belief in the dream that also I think at what coach it was, it was an older gentleman. I heard it many times before. It's like every president that those two wolves inside.

Jeremy (01:01:21.326)

I'm gonna fight though. I'm gonna fight a lot. So, but I mean, it balances out. So hopefully I can just feel that. So, yeah, having that ability to train that. Also, I think I what coach it was, who it was. It was an older gentleman, and I heard it many times before. It's like everyone's had that, those two wolves inside you, the dark, dark wolf, and then the light wolf, the good part of you is the dark.

Jeremy (01:01:46.826)

dark dark and then the light good party dark part and know balance anytime that happens I'm like so fight crazy I got this but yeah if people want on Instagram

Jeremy (01:01:51.986)

And if you don't pay attention to both, you know, and have balance, then one is gonna take over and anytime that happens, it's bad. And I'm like, okay. So fight like crazy, train my martial arts, and then also save the world from bad stuff. Okay, I got this. But yeah. If people wanna find you online. Just on Instagram, open Paul Martial Arts, TikTok, the same thing, and then Facebook as well. YouTube's kinda dead for me because I don't have an editor.

Jeremy (01:02:16.994)

YouTube is kind of a green -thrower editor. I don't it, I don't. There's other stuff I don't do. I'll find something to edit. You can us on TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook. Nice. How should we live? Here, we've cut down. We've been all over world. What do you want to tell the audience?

Jeremy (01:02:21.203)

So because I would do it but then I don't. Other stuff we don't do. I'll find someone to edit any of what we do. But yeah, you can find us on TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook. should we leave it? Here, we've kind of been all over. What do you want to the audience? How do you want to it? Hmm. Not too sure.

Jeremy (01:02:46.934)

I'm not too sure.

Jeremy (01:02:53.971)

What do you people on day one? On day one at March of Larks, would tell for kids, I'd always encourage them, hey, what do you value? What do you love? Hey, Mom. You want to protect her? Yeah. How you going do that? I sit there. Hmm. Batman? Yeah, he's good, yeah.

Jeremy (01:02:54.07)

What are you doing? Well, daily watch, I'm going to tell my school. For kids, I'd

What? Hey mom. You want to protect her? Yeah. How you gonna do that? You sit there. Hmm. Batman? Yeah, you good. So let's find all the ways to keep that and let's start with karate and let's see if you can protect her. actually, the story destroyed my heart. my gosh.

Jeremy (01:03:21.985)

So let's find all the ways you can do that and let's start with karate. Let's see if you can protect her. But actually, yeah, that story destroyed my heart. my gosh. Little boy, seven years old. Seven years old. Decided to do karate because he lost his father to gun violence. The week before. He has six sisters. He wants to protect them. That's it. It's hard.

Jeremy (01:03:33.226)

little boy, seven years old, decided to do karate because he lost his wanted to gun violence the week before. He has six sisters. He wants

That's

Jeremy (01:03:53.342)

Good kid though. yeah. yeah. You get to be, you get to help raise that kid in the way that maybe you got to know.

Jeremy (01:03:53.366)

yeah. You get to help raise that kid in a way that maybe you got some.

Jeremy (01:04:07.479)

That's pretty special. Love it. And I can't wait to help out more kids that are like that too. Thanks for being here. You're welcome.

Jeremy (01:04:07.606)

It's very special. Love it. And I can't tell about these, because know they are way more.

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Thanks

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Jeremy (00:04.175)

did you say? Good rum. Okay. I'm trying to avoid the good rum part. Yeah, well I wasn't sure if it was... Good rum or good drum? I'm not really sure. but I like good rum. Good drum. I like I'm gonna get rum. I feel like a pirate would want do that. I think usually did, like my ancestors were pirates. It's kind of cool. I think good... Why are pirates being really criminal to the people? Like really

Jeremy (00:04.31)

How do you say your last name? Good Drum. Okay. So I'm trying to avoid the good rum part of it. Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was good rum or good drum. I'm not really sure actually. But I go by good drum. Good drum. People that call me good rum, I feel like a pirate when they do that. I think you should lean in. Like my ancestors were pirates or something. That's kind of cool. But I think good drum. Why are pirates the only criminals that people like really celebrate?

Jeremy (00:33.742)

We're like, hey small child, be a pirate. That's true, I don't know. We're like, hey small child, be a bootlegger. I'm gonna blame you for that.

Jeremy (00:34.612)

We're like, small child, be a pirate. That's true, I don't know, but they We're like, hey small child, be a bootlegger. I'm gonna blame Johnny