Episode 934- Lori “Ice” Fetrick
In today's episode Jeremy sits down and chats with former American Gladiator, Lori “Ice” Fetrick about her time on the show, as well as her love of discipline training in Muay Thai and Tae Kwon Do.Lori “Ice” Fetrick - Episode 934
SUMMARY
Lori Fetrick, also known as "Ice" on American Gladiators, shares her journey from being an athlete to becoming a TV personality. She talks about the physical demands of being a gladiator and the importance of staying in shape to prevent injuries. Lori also discusses her love for martial arts and how she incorporated it into her training. She emphasizes the value of discipline and the need to stay ready for opportunities. Lori's story highlights the importance of perseverance and adaptability in pursuing one's passions. She discusses her passion for martial arts and the benefits it brings to mental health and personal growth. She shares her experience as a podcast host and the challenges of running a podcast. Lori also talks about her upcoming projects, including a children's book called Playground Warriors and the Muscles of Mayhem Tour. She emphasizes the importance of movement and taking care of one's body in today's society.
TAKEAWAYS
* Staying in shape is crucial to prevent injuries in physically demanding roles.
* Martial arts can provide discipline, athleticism, and a sense of purpose.
* Being prepared and staying ready for opportunities is essential for success.
* Perseverance and adaptability are key in pursuing one's passions. Traditional martial arts can help with various aspects of mental health and personal growth.
* Running a podcast requires dedication, time, and financial investment.
* Lori Fetrick has upcoming projects, including a children's book and a live tour.
* The food industry and the prevalence of unhealthy foods contribute to the rise in obesity and health issues.
* Lori Fetrick aims to inspire and motivate people to take care of their bodies and prioritize movement.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:03 The Physical Demands of Being a Gladiator
07:59 Incorporating Martial Arts into Training
12:13 The Importance of Discipline and Perseverance
33:04 The Power of Martial Arts
38:06 Upcoming Projects: Playground Warriors and Muscles of Mayhem Tour
43:36 The Reboot of American Gladiators
50:53 Inspiring and Motivating People to Prioritize Movement and Health
Show Notes
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Show Transcript
Jeremy (00:00.423)
Hey, how's it going everybody? Welcome, it's another episode of Whistlekick Martial Arts Radio and I'm joined today by Lori Fetrick. Lori, thanks for being here. We're gonna start chatting in just a moment. Some of you, if you're watching, you might recognize her. If you're new to the show, please check out whistlekickmartialartsradio .com. We've got a lot of good stuff going over there. All the episodes we've ever done, we do transcripts. We have links, photos, if you wanna.
dig into an old episode, they're all there. So make sure you check that out. And of course, whistlekick .com if you want to see all the things that we're doing, because we are much more than a podcast. Laurie, thanks for making the time.
Ice baby (00:34.574)
Well, good morning, I should say morning, because it's Cali time. But thank you for having me.
Jeremy (00:38.471)
You can, you can, it is your, you're the guest. This is your episode. We can be on whatever time you're on. We'll call it morning. Absolutely. I can, if I had hair, I would, I would mess it up and we could call it bedhead.
Ice baby (00:45.582)
Beautiful. Sounds good.
Ice baby (00:51.886)
How are you doing?
Jeremy (00:53.479)
I'm doing great. Yourself? Yeah. Now, do we want to hit the hard point right away and tell people why they might recognize you? Okay, well, let's do it. Okay, all right. Well, they might ask that, but I think, you know, one of the things that...
Ice baby (00:55.438)
Good, very good. Awesome.
Ice baby (01:08.958)
God, yeah. Let's not leave them out of the loop. Otherwise they'd be like, who is Lori Fetrikin? Why is she on your show?
Jeremy (01:22.887)
that's important to me as I have a conversation with someone is context, right? And quite often, and we will start an episode with how did you start training? But I think the more important context question is.
How did you get started on TV?
Let's go there first and see where that takes us.
Ice baby (01:45.902)
Let's go there. Interesting enough, I was an athlete my whole life. And so therefore I started out playing softball when I was like in fourth grade. Went through high school. I want to do is play varsity sports, basketball, softball, volleyball. And I got out of there and I was like, my God, what am I going to do? You know?
So I started weight training and started bodybuilding and started competing actually. And there was one year I was getting ready to go to the nationals and I flipped on my television and all of a sudden I saw this program that I actually thought was the stupidest thing I'd ever seen.
Jeremy (02:17.735)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (02:35.527)
You can say that now.
Ice baby (02:37.198)
I can say that now, although at the same time I went, wait a minute, I can do this. I'm an athlete, I can do this. And I looked at the girls they had on the show and I was like, okay, they're kind of athletic, little muscular. One of the girls I competed against as a matter of fact, and that was Ray Hollett. And the show was American Gladiators. And I went and tried out.
And long story short, I mean, it took me like three months of jumping through the hoops and I was very literally jumping through hoops. Exactly. And I was fortunate enough to out of 90 girls, I was the one they chose after three months of tryouts and interviews. And I mean, it's like one of those stories that you hear and you're just like, God, would that ever be me?
Jeremy (03:10.535)
some of them literal, I imagine.
Ice baby (03:31.182)
you know, actually chosen out of 90. But yeah, I put my head to the grindstone and I was just like, let's do this. And that's how I got in television. I actually was ice on the American Gladiators for about eight to nine years.
Jeremy (03:46.887)
And that's a long time. Cause yeah, and I, and I imagine that, yeah, no doubt. I imagine that you were held to some pretty high standards, right? I mean, you know, you don't have to look too far into conversations on Hollywood television, movies, and the double standards that often appear for men and women. So I'm guessing there's some stuff there.
Ice baby (03:49.358)
In television it is. Especially now today.
Ice baby (04:02.542)
Yes.
Jeremy (04:15.111)
You had to stay in shape. You had to... I always assumed and maybe you're gonna blow up a myth for me, but it looked real. It seemed... Okay, all right, good. I'm glad. And so you had to progress in those skills while maintaining all these other things. Was it as grueling as I imagined? Okay.
Ice baby (04:27.374)
no, it was very real.
Yes.
Ice baby (04:36.654)
Yes.
Ice baby (04:41.742)
Yes. Yes. And the grueling part was probably some of the different games that we had that could very easily ruin your career very quickly. You know, by a torn ACL, a break of a wrist, finger even. I mean, little things.
Yeah, I mean, that was like every single game that you went into, you had to think of these things and how do I play all out a hundred percent and yet keep myself safe? You know, there's a very fine line there. So, yeah, that was the progression because my first year was all balls out. You know, it was just like, yeah, I'm just going to kick some ass and...
Jeremy (05:23.811)
Yeah. Yeah.
Ice baby (05:36.302)
take names and yeah, exactly. And then as the years went on, I was like, okay, well now I gotta start protecting my body a little bit, you know? So, and all that means is when a girl is coming, you know, full force, 100 miles an hour in my mind towards me, I'm like, do I step out of the way? Or do I just let her barrel into me and take that hit?
Jeremy (05:36.423)
You gotta make a name for yourself, yeah.
Ice baby (06:06.606)
you know, and possibly injure myself. nine out of 10 times, I'll be honest, I took the hit. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah, it was, it was a great ride and absolutely amazing ride. And I mean, you can get like all the behind the scenes, everything on that on actually the documentary that we did on Netflix called Muscles of Mayhem. And it's a five part series. And it.
Jeremy (06:15.079)
Maybe for good TV, if nothing else.
Ice baby (06:35.918)
really digs deep into what happened and what went on and how we progressed through the years.
Jeremy (06:47.623)
One of the things that happens in the martial arts community is you get some schools that are starting to incorporate more, I'm gonna call it, prehab or resilience -based stuff that threads through.
I've had a number of friends who have been in the bodybuilding space and it's, you know, from the outside to people who don't know, it's pretty unhealthy pursuit, right? It's a hundred percent of statics at the expense of a lot of other things. But I'm going to guess as you went into more of the athletic side, being a former, former isn't the right word, but being more heavily an athlete prior, did your training change? Did you start to embrace more of how can I make sure that that finger, that ACL, that those injuries are less likely?
Ice baby (07:34.414)
we, well, a few things on that. I mean, you know, we, we learned, we had, we had a trainer in the morning, like, so we would come in and do hair and makeup. And then you went into the training room and I used to laugh it after the training room. The training room meant this, hold on. The training room meant this. I would walk in there and I'd see all the guys getting their ankles taped.
Jeremy (07:48.743)
After hair and makeup?
Jeremy (07:54.375)
Okay. All right. All right.
Ice baby (07:59.726)
or their fingers taped or their wrist tape. And I was like, what a bunch of babies. What are you getting? Why are you taping all this shit? And then I realized, this actually helps prevent injuries. So I started, and that's why after hair and makeup, you go and you sit on the training table and they wrap your ankles and your wrists and your fingers, whatever you need. So.
I learned how to do that as time went on. You know, how to somewhat prevent some type of injury.
Jeremy (08:37.703)
And what about the, let's say the skills side of things, right? Being strong is always good, being fast is always good, being taped or less injury prone is always good. What about the event specific stuff?
Ice baby (08:51.438)
I'll be honest, they just threw us on. Yeah, there was no... They tested the game. Don't get me wrong, they tested it, but they never said, here is how you win. Here is how you do this game. They never did that. They'd throw us on, test it. Are you comfortable? Yeah, I think. I don't know. I guess we'll see.
We only got a very little practice on the games. But see, here's the difference between me and a bodybuilder. I was an athlete, you know, so therefore I could adjust very quickly to the games and adapt very quickly. And most of the gladiators were athletes as well. They did bring in a few that were just bodybuilders. They couldn't move. They were a little slow, you know.
But overall, we were all athletes. So we kind of adjusted very quickly to these games. And we realized how to get the upper hand. And I hate to say it, most of the time the upper hand was just being on television because we were used to it and we weren't nervous of the cameras compared to the competitors. All of a sudden they realized all these cameras were on them and they're like, you know, kind of thing. So it was, you know, we did have a small upper hand on that one.
Jeremy (10:16.327)
Was there any?
I guess off -season, I would call it off -season training. Were you going away saying, how do I prepare better for next season?
Ice baby (10:25.998)
They actually, it's interesting you say that there was one season that they, the show actually decided to send us over to the USC training grounds. They hired a trainer and I don't know if they thought we were getting slow or we weren't winning that much. I mean, we were, but they had a trainer and they had all these different.
and they were training things. It was just really bizarre. But yes, we did like, you know, they hook something on our waist with a big, huge, you know, like bungee to where we had to run and pull it. And then I'll never forget this. They had to stick our hands in these barrels of rice and just keep gripping. And it was like, what is this for? And I realized.
Jeremy (11:13.639)
That's some old school karate training right there.
Ice baby (11:15.598)
I was going to say once my hands were in there and I was gripping after about literally 15 to 20 seconds, I'm like, whoa, my forearms just started burning my hands and everything. I was like, okay, this is for my grip strength. This is for this. This is for that. And then they had us put some like these booties on and we were just, it was like a side to side, you know, kind of like little thing that was like six feet long. And they were, you know, getting our legs like more strengthened.
Jeremy (11:22.503)
take long.
Jeremy (11:37.319)
Hmm.
Ice baby (11:45.71)
you know, inner thigh, outer, you know. So yeah, they started doing these things, you know, in the off season to get us ready to be a little bit more competitive. And I think what they were doing that for is they were realizing they were going to bring in bigger and faster competitors. And so we had to be more prepared. You know, there are, there are, you know, comments out there that I hear all the time about the gladiators, not all the time, but.
You know, they'd be like, you know, I was, you know, for a guy, they're like, I was, you know, six, three, and I was fast. I was ripped. I was athlete and they didn't take me because I was too big and too good, you know? And then sometimes I'd hear that from the women, you know, it wasn't that maybe you didn't have a good story. Maybe you didn't have a good look. Maybe you weren't right for television. So it wasn't that they didn't choose contestants that were big and strong and fast.
Jeremy (12:27.271)
you
Ice baby (12:42.766)
They did, you know, and that kind of progressed throughout the years as well.
Jeremy (12:47.655)
Okay. Now, of course, we are a martial art show. And so, you know, that rice, you know, a bunch of the audience is going to say, yeah, yeah. And, you know, however you want to look at American Gladiators, I mean, there were some at least combat adjacent. I mean, there were events that I think of, you know, the, what do you call it, with the big Q -tip, right? Joust. Thank you. That's combat, right? That is directly applicable to so many of the things that...
Ice baby (12:54.83)
Hahaha!
Ice baby (13:10.318)
Jealous, jealous thing, yeah.
Yeah.
Jeremy (13:17.991)
what a traditional martial artist do, even if they're not using weapons. So what's your relationship to martial arts?
Ice baby (13:23.822)
Well, it's interesting because during the American Gladiator show, probably towards the tail end of it, we went into Orlando and we did the Orlando Live, which meant that we actually performed and did the show at a dinner theater. And it was like the Knights and Warrior or a Medieval Times here in California type of show. So.
Jeremy (13:47.047)
Mmm.
Ice baby (13:50.83)
They brought in a lot of different trainers and one of our trainers Was very I think he had his black belt Muay Thai and so in During our days because we only did the show at night. We only did it for two hours and the rest of the time we had free time so Dave would come out and We would be doing Muay Thai and he was teaching us Muay Thai throughout
you know, our days. And that was amazing. And then we had another guy on set that was a, my God, why did I just lose the name? Taekwondo, Taekwondo instructor. So I started going to him, his name was Bruce. And I started going to him like three, four days a week. And I wanted to learn katas. I wanted to learn.
Jeremy (14:36.039)
There you go. Yep.
Ice baby (14:47.854)
everything. I wanted to do jump kicks. I wanted to do, you know, the spinning kicks, you know, all that kind of fun stuff. And at first I was doing it just simply because I wanted to learn these moves for possibly television and, you know, different things that I could do fight scenes on television. As I got into it, I was like, wow, this is amazing. And I just fell in love with it.
And we trained for a good solid, I would say, year. So Dave was, like I said, Dave was Muay Thai, Bruce was Taekwondo. And I would kind of flip back and forth a little bit on that, more towards Taekwondo. And I remember, I have to, it's funny because when we started...
chit chatting about the show. I was like, my God, I got to go back and find that footage. Cause I know that I actually videotaped it. But again, it wasn't, it wasn't a videotape on this iPhone. It was a videotape on the handheld. So now it's like, where are those little tapes that I can go back and actually find them? Because I remember, I remember, I mean, I was, I got, I got good and I loved it.
Jeremy (15:57.127)
Yeah.
Ice baby (16:04.974)
Absolutely fell in love with it. The discipline. I loved the discipline. I loved the moves. I loved the athleticism in it. Challenging my body, pushing it to a different level. Not gladiator level, a different level. Actually, yeah, there's hand -to -hand combat and gladiators, but this is different.
Jeremy (16:06.215)
What did you love about it?
Jeremy (16:17.479)
Hmm.
Ice baby (16:33.102)
You know, this is, this is, you have to be smart. You have to think, you have to be prepared. And then, I mean, that's like the mechanical side of it. And after you get past that mechanical side of it, that it becomes automatic. That's, I was still, I was still really into the mechanical stage, of course. but I was working towards, I actually wanted to compete, you know? I was really, I just loved everything about it. And then.
Jeremy (16:49.479)
Hmm.
Ice baby (17:01.678)
We left Orlando, Bruce stayed in Orlando. I came back to LA and I'll be honest, I looked, I looked for different instructors and then I had, I found another guy that did MMA fighting and he wanted to teach me Jiu -Jitsu. So I kind of started playing around with that a little bit. So, and that was different and that was, that was something I wasn't really into that too much. I really liked the Taekwondo more.
Jeremy (17:28.679)
Hmm.
Ice baby (17:31.022)
hand -to -hand combat kind of thing rather than the jujitsu kind of part of it. So I've tried different, different arts, different areas. And that, I have to say that was one of my favorites. Although Dave was really adamant about teaching me Muay Thai. It's like, I'm gonna teach you this Muay Thai, you're gonna learn this and it's gonna, you're gonna love this later on. So everything about it, I loved it.
Jeremy (18:00.103)
Nice. What are you, how do I ask this question the right way?
Movement, if we take zoom out, right? Movement has been a huge part of your life. What are you doing now for movement?
Ice baby (18:16.094)
Mixing it up, I do. I'm just trying to do, because I'm a gym rat, yeah. I mean, I'm in the gym, I'm training, but I also know that my body gets used to things. When you do something over and over and over and over, your body will get used to it. And yeah, exactly, it's a good thing.
Jeremy (18:18.503)
In what way? What are you doing?
Jeremy (18:25.447)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (18:36.135)
Kind of designed that way. It's a good thing.
Ice baby (18:41.71)
So I try to mix it up. I'm, you know, I'm in their weight training. I'm, I want to do hit training, you know, high intensity training. I mean, mixing it up, heck going on a hike, to be quite honest with you is mixing it up for me. You know, I would, you know, it's interesting that you, we were talking about, kickboxing because even if I go and take a kickboxing class and it's not.
traditional kickboxing. I still love it because I'm using my legs, I'm using my, you know, my butt, I'm using the core. Everything about, you know, kickboxing to me is core and legs. So I love that. So I'm always trying to mix it up and, you know, do different things here. Sometimes I'll just hire a personal trainer.
Jeremy (19:16.583)
Mm.
Jeremy (19:27.591)
Hmm.
Ice baby (19:37.806)
and let's say, you know, taekwondo and say, okay, let's go, you know, rather than going into the classes. And I mean, I, that's me. I, I wish I didn't have the impatience, but moving up in the ranks constantly, you know, it's like, this is going to take forever, you know, and then I'll just go hire a personal one and let's see what we can do with this.
Jeremy (19:58.823)
There you go. Yeah, yeah, you know, I also spend a lot of time in the gym, probably not as much as you, but it's something that I do really enjoy. And the biggest difference between martial arts and the gym is...
If I'm doing, if I'm squatting or whatever, there is function internally to that. But martial arts is externally functional. If I squat and I do it maybe off a little bit, it only hurts me with my progress. But if my techniques, my kicks are wrong, my blocks are wrong, I could really get hurt. It's a whole different way of approaching movement. And that just kind of struck me.
Ice baby (20:38.894)
absolutely.
Ice baby (20:43.758)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (20:44.007)
with, because there's, you could say that also about athletics in general, right? Like if you said soccer player, you know, you're not just kicking the ball, you're kicking the ball to a specific location. It matters.
Ice baby (20:55.246)
Right, absolutely, it matters. Every movement, you, matters, you know? And our bodies, our bodies are fascinating. You know, I'm always so fascinated with our body and our recovery time. And...
Jeremy (21:08.455)
Hmm.
Ice baby (21:14.862)
you know, different things. I mean, yeah, if I, if I left the gym today and started a, you know, into kickboxing, I would be more sore than I've ever been in the gym in the last year, because now I'm using muscles in my body, excuse me, now I'm using muscles in my body that I'm not used to, you know? So it's a whole different ball game. And, and I actually love that.
Jeremy (21:38.535)
Completely different. Yeah Hmm Yeah, the variety the variety is good, you know, you can't one of the things you talk about on the show is the notion of growth or progress or however you want to term it and You if you get comfortable with something you're not gonna progress at it anymore, right? That's I mean It is it is it's most of the examples I use when I when I talk about those concepts are out of the gym You know if I'm used to 100 pounds, I've got to go to 105 otherwise
Ice baby (21:53.998)
No, and that's just life, isn't it? Yeah.
Jeremy (22:07.431)
my body's not gonna be uncomfortable, it's not gonna develop, it's not gonna grow, whatever I'm trying to get it to do.
Ice baby (22:12.91)
It's like get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
Jeremy (22:16.967)
Exactly, exactly. So after gladiators, you know, nine years, like we said, kind of a long time, I'm sure you were getting recognized all over the place, you know, rather an iconic look to you, at least at that time.
Ice baby (22:33.422)
Ha ha ha.
Jeremy (22:38.439)
What was next?
Ice baby (22:40.91)
I'll be honest, I didn't know. After Gladiators, it was interesting because I had put so much of my life into that character. And it just, I mean, to be honest, it just flew by. That eight, nine years just flew by. And I didn't necessarily, I think at that point in time, I was thinking,
Jeremy (22:41.575)
Where did you take that?
Jeremy (22:57.511)
Mm -hmm.
Ice baby (23:08.718)
Okay, and that's why the training and martial arts and the fight scenes and everything. I wanted to go into television and movies and do, you know, not stunt work. I wanted to do my own stunt work. I wanted to do my own fight scenes and work with choreographers and everything. And then right at that time, you know, timing is everything. Right at that time is when television went, all we want is reality shows.
and they took away a lot of the drama shows, the comedy shows, the action shows, and they went all, I mean, all, like every single channel he turned on was a reality show of some sort. And they didn't want, yeah, they, yes, exactly. They didn't want anyone that had already been on television. They wanted the average Joe.
Jeremy (23:52.711)
a lot cheaper to produce.
Ice baby (24:03.694)
So it was very hard to get any work in the industry at that time. So I had to do, whoop, switch, pivot, and go, all right, this is what I need to do now. And that was, I opened up a gym in Orlando, Florida. We were already there from the live show. I found my investor there. And...
It just, it took off and it was a pretty big gym in downtown Orlando. And so I opened that business and then I hold, I held it for about four to five years. I'm not a Florida girl. So I, I'm not really keen on the whole humidity and all that. And I, I'm a California LA girl, so I miss the mountains. I missed everything like that. So after about five years, I realized I could sell the gym. I wasn't going to, I wasn't going to give it up. I just wanted to hold it until I sold it.
And so I sold it at five years, came back to California and believe it or not, I opened up another business and that just started the ball rolling as far as like, wow, I really enjoy opening businesses, building them up. And then after five years, I'll turn around and sell them. So I did that, a tanning salon of all things, of all things, a tanning salon here in LA, because I realized in the business it's like,
Jeremy (25:16.167)
What was that second business?
Okay, okay.
Ice baby (25:26.958)
You know, in the entertainment industry, people like to, at that point in time, they're like all about, you know, having their golden tans and everything else, but they didn't have the time to go to the beach and do that whole sunbathing. It's like, I need 10 minutes, get in, get out. You know, it's like tanning salon. my God, this is beautiful. So I did that for five years, turned around, sold that, and then went into real estate. I started doing business is what I started doing. And although the entire time,
Man, I missed. I missed the entertainment industry. And I kept thinking, and I'm not even joking, all those years, it's been 30 to 35 years since we did Gladiators. And even all the way up to five years ago, I kept thinking and feeling there's something missing. There's more out there. I'm destined to do more, you know? And I never let that fire inside me die.
I kept looking and I kept, you know, because sometimes you just got to create it yourself because it's not going to come around. And so when the Netflix documentary came out, it kind of resurged the brand again, the name, and it just kind of took off.
you know, like a small little wildfire. And I'm just absolutely enjoying this moment and enjoying the ride and really being in the moment this time. You know, I was in the moment back then. But, you know, when you're young, you're like, you feel as though it's never going to end. It's going to be here forever. You know, so this time around, it's like it's I know it's not lasting forever. So now it's like.
Jeremy (26:57.287)
It's gonna last forever. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Ice baby (27:11.502)
Every moment of this whole entire journey of building. It's like building something has been phenomenal You know, and I'm just so grateful and it's not all these things are coming to me I'm out there creating them this time
Jeremy (27:27.303)
And it's funny you pick that word because that that was the word I was just about to use. That's the thing that I'm seeing in common. You know, as an athlete, you're creating skill. You're investing your time and your energy and often your money to cultivate that skill, to improve it, to make it what it is as a bodybuilder. I mean, you're doing the same thing with your body. I mean, anybody who's spent any time in the gym knows that there is an art to it. It's if it was an exact science, anybody could be.
Ice baby (27:48.238)
Yes.
Jeremy (27:56.999)
huge all the time, but it's not, that's not how it works.
Ice baby (28:01.07)
You have to push yourself and push your body even when something's not happening. Because that's where it's like you have to be prepared for when that opportunity comes along. And I was very fortunate and speaking of opportunities, I've never quit training that, you know, throughout my entire career, even when gladiators ended, I never quit training. I kept pushing, kept pushing, kept pushing.
And it actually has paid off. And that's what's so cool about it. So, and what I mean by that is I just signed an endorsement deal with V Shred. And I mean, it came very organically, you know, it wasn't.
Jeremy (28:41.927)
cool.
Ice baby (28:49.198)
like I went out and seeked, you know, kind of thing. I was like, I was having dinner with a friend of a friend and he happened, Vince happened to be there and we just hit it off. And I was like, your program is brilliant. It's simple. It's easy. You took out all the BS, you know, for people. And next thing I know, we have a zoom meeting. Next thing I know, I have an offer on the table. And if I hadn't been prepared.
Jeremy (28:59.207)
No.
Jeremy (29:19.143)
Yeah.
Ice baby (29:19.79)
and I had quit, I would have never had this opportunity. And so I am a very big advocate about that.
Jeremy (29:29.351)
Yeah, you got, you have to stay ready, right? Whether we're talking about sport, whether we're talking about creative pursuits, whether talking about business, which is where I spend most of my time. Those opportunities, if you're not ready to capitalize on them, they go to somebody else. You know, you probably weren't going to have that zoom meeting and say, hold on. you, you need me to be in this way to show up like this. Give me 12 weeks.
Ice baby (29:31.918)
100%.
Ice baby (29:39.95)
Mm -hmm.
Ice baby (29:45.262)
Yes.
Ice baby (29:53.614)
Yeah, it's 12 weeks. Give me six months. Thank you. But you know, you're right.
Jeremy (29:58.439)
I've just given you a lot of credit, right?
But there are plenty of people out there, and you see that, and you see people whether, you know, we're, I think most of us are used to the anecdote of a crash diet to get ready for something, but a lot of people approach all of their life that way. And, you know, one of the things, it is, it is, and I've been talking about this a lot lately, it keeps coming up in conversation, this idea of discipline being everything. And where does discipline come from?
Ice baby (30:21.518)
Isn't that mind -blowing?
Jeremy (30:33.383)
For me, it's through my martial arts training. And everything is about discipline. You know, your episode like 930, whatever. Well, I was really bad at it early on. I didn't stop, I just kept going. I trusted that it would get better like everything else that everyone does. You start terrible and you get better, but you have to have that layer of discipline in there.
Ice baby (30:41.518)
Yeah.
Ice baby (30:57.262)
Man, and that's hard because that first layer of discipline is the hardest to get through. But man, once you pass through that layer, you know, and it is layers. It's interesting that you said it's layers. And in fitness, same thing. You're absolutely right. People are like, you know, I gotta get ready for summer. I gotta get ready for a wedding, an event. It's like, why don't you make fitness your lifestyle? You know, why don't you just...
Be that disciplined person on or have that little discipline for the first week, two weeks. Start slow, you know, but give yourself 30 minutes to 45 minutes a day to do something and to move. You know, be disciplined on not eating that snicker bar and maybe grabbing an apple instead. There are so many different layers of the discipline and...
And it's interesting, let's get back to the martial arts for a second. And that is, that's one of the reasons why I loved martial arts and love the martial arts industry. Even starting out as, I mean, my girlfriend has a son, he's 17 now, but he was in my life at three. And the first thing that she said, I'm getting him in the martial arts because it taught him discipline.
You know, and it's not just handing your child over to a sensei per se, but at the same time, you know, it's teaching the kids discipline. It's teaching them respect. It's teaching them a lot of things that they're not getting either at home or in the school system.
Jeremy (32:44.135)
Right, it is, I find myself saying that the way traditional martial arts is trained in most schools is the antidote to just about every problem that we have today. You know, whether you talk about the physical issues, right? The average person walks for, in this country walks 4 ,000 steps a day and two thirds, three quarters are overweight, right? Martial arts helps with that. I'm not saying it solves it, but it helps it.
Ice baby (32:55.278)
Mm -hmm.
Ice baby (33:04.526)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (33:13.543)
or we're talking about psychology and mental health, right? Martial arts helps with that. There's no thing that I know that helps with more aspects of where we are deficient as a society than traditional martial arts, which is why I'm so passionate about the things that we do.
Ice baby (33:13.806)
Movement, yes?
Ice baby (33:30.318)
Mm -hmm. I mean I can tell your 984 episodes Just keep it going I mean it's like we're
Jeremy (33:34.447)
Just keep going. Just keep going. You know, this is what do they say about TV? You know, don't go past 100 episodes.
Ice baby (33:45.294)
I don't even know. I've never even heard that.
Jeremy (33:46.343)
I've heard that I've heard that kicked around before I ignore most advice at least that kind of advice just keep going
Ice baby (33:52.686)
Hahaha
I mean, I'm only what? Go ahead.
Jeremy (33:56.967)
So you.
Well, keep going, keep going. You're leading me in where I was gonna go anyway.
Ice baby (34:01.614)
No, go ahead. No, go for it. Go for it. You go.
Jeremy (34:05.703)
You were about to say you're 80 something episodes in on your show.
Ice baby (34:08.494)
Yes, yes, only 80. I mean, God, I feel like such a baby, you know. But like you said before, exactly how much time it takes, how to get your guests, how to promote it. I mean, there's a lot involved, you know, and usually, let's be honest, the first 100, 200, 300, I don't know, are all out of your own pocket. You know, it's like,
Jeremy (34:11.495)
Only. Only. 80s a lot. People don't understand how much time this takes.
Ice baby (34:37.454)
Do you have a studio in your home? Do you go rent one? I mean, it's like all these variables. Do you do your own editing? Do you hire an editor? I mean, it's insane, you know, what goes into these podcasts. So, I mean, much, much, much respect to you that, you know, you're in the 900s. I can't even imagine every, probably once a month, I'm like, why am I doing this again? I love it. I do love it though.
Jeremy (35:05.799)
It, you've probably had the experience that I've had, and you've probably had it in a few different ways where you meet someone and they feel like they have a connection with you because they know a bit about who you are, whether it's from TV or podcast or maybe they read a book or whatever, they feel like they have a relationship with you. And you could have a very interesting conversation. And it is an interesting conversation, especially if you don't know who they are.
Ice baby (35:17.838)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (35:32.935)
I was once recognized by my voice at a martial arts event, which is an absolutely surreal moment. They're like, you're Jeremy. Yeah, yes, yes I am. And we had a really interesting conversation. Actually, I became friends with this person and still know who they are. But what we do is a lot harder than it looks on the outside. People just, you know, they get in the car, they wash their dishes and they listen to us. And they assume that...
Ice baby (35:42.606)
Yeah, exactly.
Jeremy (36:00.871)
we're being as casual about it as they are listening. But the reason that you all out there can be casual is because we're not. There's a lot on the other side.
Ice baby (36:10.702)
There you have it. There was something that Justin Timberlake said one time that has stuck with me. Somebody goes, you make everything look so easy. He goes, because I have 10 ,000 hours behind me making sure that it looks easy to you. But don't get, he's like, don't get me wrong. I have put 10 ,000 hours into this making it look easy.
So yeah, it's podcasting is a whole nother animal. But here's the other thing, as you were talking, I was listening. And the other thing that came to mind was I get to meet so many cool people that if I did not have my podcast or I wasn't a guest on somebody else's podcast, I mean, this is awesome. We're across the country from one another.
You know, and if we didn't have podcasting, I'd have never had this experience to sit down and talk with you and talk about martial arts and the disciplines and everything that moves, you know, comes into this. And that's the fascinating, amazing part about it.
Jeremy (37:07.815)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (37:12.775)
No. No, no.
Ice baby (37:27.022)
And every once in a while you're freezing just to let you know. So if I don't, grab it.
Jeremy (37:27.559)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's it's it's happening. I don't know. It's happening on on for me with you too. And I'm not I'm not sure what it is.
Ice baby (37:36.494)
Okay. But damn, we're good. We're just keep going.
Jeremy (37:40.711)
Yeah, I mean, that's the beauty of the platform that we have here is that it'll upload, Andrew will deal with it in post, and we should be fine. We should be fine. So.
Ice baby (37:44.686)
Hehehehe
Ice baby (37:48.59)
Exactly. Yeah. Agreed.
Jeremy (37:54.503)
What, you mentioned the Netflix documentary giving you some opportunities, some attention that wasn't there, you know, in the years prior. How else are you capitalizing on that? What are those opportunities?
Ice baby (38:06.318)
I have a children's book coming out called Playground Warriors. That's going to be cool. That should be coming out in about 30 days. And yes, yes, yes. Me and my manager came together and it was like, okay, so let's put this children's book together.
Jeremy (38:12.871)
Okay, bye.
Jeremy (38:17.287)
That sounds amazing. Was that your idea? That's brilliant. I love that. Okay.
Ice baby (38:33.262)
And it is hard nowadays to find a publisher. So we said, screw it. We're going to self publish it ourselves. Self publishing it, getting it out there. We'll get it into, you know, different, you know, stores and libraries. But the cool thing, which I'm very excited about too, is the animation that's following it. We're going to have a children's animation following it. We're going to have our, we have our YouTube channel and it's called The Playground Warriors. And we have an IG called The Playground Warriors. And now.
It's more about, and right now it's from ages four to seven. And the animation's about exercise and playing outside and getting the kids off their tablets and their phones and let's get back to movement. Let's get back to having fun however it may be. If it's not outside, if they have the luxury going outside, let's say, we're doing, teaching them like little things like jumping jacks, sit -ups, push -ups, whatever it may be just to move.
jump around and at the same time probably educating the parents a little bit on the nutritional side of things. Hey, maybe let's stop with all the sugary cereals. Kids are gonna hate me for that because of the fact that I loved them when I was a kid. My mom wouldn't let me eat the sugary cereals. Yeah. So.
Jeremy (39:31.751)
Hmm.
Jeremy (39:43.079)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (39:48.743)
They were made differently back then.
Our sugar cereals are not the today's sugar cereals.
Ice baby (39:56.174)
they're terrible. They're absolutely the worst thing that kids would be putting in their body. So that's going to be a lot of fun, that animation, you know, following the children's book. And I'm going to have a series of the children's book. There's going to be at least five of them. And again, it's about all about movement, all about, you know, having fun outside. It's about, you know, camaraderie. It's about team building. It's about confidence.
Jeremy (40:11.879)
I love it.
Jeremy (40:20.935)
Mm -hmm.
Ice baby (40:22.766)
It's about those types of things, again, that they're not learning in school anymore. And the parents nowadays, if you think about it, I mean, you can't survive in this day and age without two working parents. So it's not like when I was raised, my mom was at home, she raised us, my dad worked. That was it. Now it's like there are two working parents. So maybe the kids aren't getting a lot of the attention that we did when we were kids. So I'm hoping.
Jeremy (40:35.783)
hard.
Ice baby (40:51.502)
you know, this is my hope, is the children's book is going to be maybe like a, a go between the parents and the kids to where they can read to the kids or the kids can start reading and have some of this, you know, I, I don't want to say I'm educating, but yet yes, at the same time, I'm motivating, motivating and inspiring them to do something, you know, yeah.
Jeremy (41:11.271)
Yarr.
Jeremy (41:14.919)
But yeah, yeah, the two often go hand in hand.
Ice baby (41:19.918)
So the children's book, that's gonna be happening with the animation. The other thing is we have something called the Muscles of Mayhem Tour. And it's more of an intimate tour, like four to five gladiators. And it's gonna be a meet and greet, VIP packages, also with audience participation. No, we're not jousting one another. It's not we're hitting the floor. I mean, can you imagine the liability and the insurance on that right now?
Jeremy (41:43.527)
Aw man.
Jeremy (41:49.191)
Yes, and I would pay a lot to see it. That would be amazing.
Ice baby (41:53.678)
There you can see, maybe we do that. I don't know. You know, it's like somebody coming up from the audience who wants to joust ice. But then again, I don't want to hit be hit in the face again anymore.
Jeremy (42:06.215)
We can find you a helmet. Sure we can. I'm sure. Are you really? Awesome.
Ice baby (42:08.174)
I've got my helmet, believe it or not, still from back in the day. Yeah, I do. I do. And I look at it now and I laugh and I'm like, this is just a big, huge football helmet. You know? But yeah, there's, and so there's Muscles and Mayhem, the children's book, The Playground Warriors. Muscles and Mayhem, by the way, there's a website called Muscles and Mayhem Live. And that's where people can go. Our first, we're starting on the East Coast. So it's Toronto.
It's New York and Pittsburgh, and then we're adding, adding, adding, adding dates. And we're talking venues of maybe like a thousand people. So it's not ginormous, you know?
Jeremy (42:42.023)
Okay, cool.
Yeah, I'm gonna, you know, we dropped this stuff in the show notes, of course, and anything you want us to plug in there, we'll do that, but I'm writing this down for myself. I'm gonna see if I can make it to one, because that sounds like a trip.
Ice baby (42:51.342)
Yes.
Ice baby (42:55.822)
Thank you.
There you go. Exactly. So I mean, there's it's and then there's possibly this is where my my fingers are crossed big time right now. And that is the American gladiators are rebooting again. They're going to do the show again. And the UK just rebooted their show. This is the third time they rebooted. So they just got done. So what we're what they're doing here in the States is they're looking for gladiators are looking for contestants.
but they're gonna film it over in the UK because the set's already there. The games are already there. They don't have to create them here, which is gonna save them millions of dollars. So what I'm crossing my fingers on is that I wanna be like a commentary somehow, whether it be between the gladiators and the contenders. I would love to host a show, but apparently they're looking for an A -lister.
Jeremy (43:35.879)
Okay. That makes sense.
Jeremy (43:41.127)
Mm -mm.
Yeah.
Ice baby (43:59.342)
And apparently they don't think that I'm the A -lister. You know?
Jeremy (44:03.175)
Who better to host it than you? Come on. Come on.
Ice baby (44:05.998)
Dude, I mean, you're preaching the choir right now. Everybody's the same way. They're like, my God, you and Nitro would be amazing at hosting. So maybe if the rock passes or somebody like that, then they'll go, well, maybe, who knows? But yeah, our names are in the hat.
Jeremy (44:13.031)
Yes!
Jeremy (44:20.551)
Well, you know what? It's not the rock you have to worry about. It's Kevin Hart. Because he'll grab anything.
Ice baby (44:25.838)
I know. Can you imagine that would be so funny? Actually, it might actually add some comedy to it, which would be a little funny. One of the gladiators, he'd be like, so how are... Exactly. That's funny you say that. You're absolutely right. So those are the things I'm trying to capitalize on right now. And just seeing where it goes. Everything, it's like, again, like we were talking layers.
Jeremy (44:34.119)
Can you imagine Kevin Hart interviewing, right? Like I'm trying to think about the size discrepancy. Yeah, yeah. They need to get him a step stool.
Ice baby (44:57.774)
You know, one thing's gonna, you know, the V Shred ads aren't out yet. And I mean, this just happened like, you know, I don't know, two months. And I just went out and up to Vegas and shot a whole bunch of ads with events. And so those are gonna be hitting. So apparently I'm gonna be in every household in America who has, you know, any type of, you know, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, because all the ads are on there. So you'll start seeing me on there.
you know, which is going to be a lot of fun. And that's going to lead to something that'll lead to something. And that's what I'm looking forward to.
Jeremy (45:26.503)
Awesome.
Jeremy (45:32.359)
Tell us about your show. Tell us about your podcast.
Ice baby (45:35.022)
Chillin' with Ice, it's evolved, just like I'm sure. 984 episodes and yours has evolved. My first...
Jeremy (45:42.503)
Don't go listen to the first 100 episodes.
Ice baby (45:47.278)
My first episodes actually were, again, yes, they were rough. They were raw. But I was interviewing the Gladiators, which was really cool because I hadn't, some of these people I haven't talked to in 30 years. So it was like, Hey, you know, what'd you do after Gladiators? What are you doing now? You know, let's talk about behind the scenes, what we were doing on the bus and how was your tour experience and you know, all these different things. So we got to reconnect and that was amazing. And that's...
Jeremy (45:47.495)
Just don't.
Ice baby (46:17.102)
That's how the show started, was I wanted to interview all the Gladiators and some of the contestants, and it just took off. You know, so many... No. Yeah. Some of them I haven't... Okay, so I haven't gotten nos. Some of them just don't answer my calls.
Jeremy (46:26.247)
Did any of them say no?
They all said yes. That's great. That says something.
Ice baby (46:39.566)
Is that the same thing? I'm kidding.
Jeremy (46:41.319)
No, no, it's not because it makes you feel better because I know exactly what that is. There are there are people there are people that's been like, hey, you should come on the show. Yeah, we should do that sometime. Stay in touch.
Ice baby (46:44.174)
Then you know, yeah.
Ice baby (46:54.126)
and you never hear from them again. I mean, to be honest with you though, it's like, for instance, the one, a couple of people I haven't had on the show and that's simply because I don't really think they want anything to do with Gladiators any longer and that's Jazz. Jazz is one of them. Jazz is, I forgot what season she was in, but she was amazing. She didn't do the documentary, any of the documentaries, she didn't do that. She just didn't want to be part of it any longer. So she wasn't.
involved. Sky hasn't been on my podcast. Her and I kind of have a small little falling out, but I'd love to get her out of my podcast. So Jazz and Sky, but let's see who else. Really, I want to say those are almost the only two that, yeah, out of all the gladiators. And then some of the gladiators, I just, you know, I mean, some of the alternets.
Jeremy (47:44.551)
That's pretty good.
Ice baby (47:52.014)
Maybe I just wasn't really interested into having, you know, that's all. But yes. And so it went from that. And then I started signing at Comic -Cons, you know, because, you know, the more I get out there, the more Comic -Cons were like, my God, let's have you sign. And that was amazing. And I love doing Comic -Cons, autograph signings. And so I started meeting like a lot of cool celebrities at the Comic -Cons.
Jeremy (47:57.543)
It's gotta be interesting. You've gotta be engaged.
Ice baby (48:20.718)
And so then I started asking them, hey, I'd love to have you on my podcast. So therefore they started coming on my podcast. And then obviously the more I got into the whole fitness world again, meaning I never left the fitness world, but getting a little bit more in depth, like, you know, having a nutritionist on. Yesterday, one of my guests, amazing, he has his PhD.
in nutrition science. So getting him on the show and picking his brain. So it's evolved, you know, talking to anti -aging doctors. I had my personal anti -aging doctor on my podcast for females, you know, females over 40, they're going through hormonal changes. How do you navigate the waters through that? You know, nutrition, fitness, you got to move. What do you do? So it's evolved in all these areas.
Jeremy (48:53.767)
Hmm.
Ice baby (49:18.158)
And I think it's just, yeah, exactly. And again, if you're not, that goes right back to what we said. If you're not changing and being uncomfortable in the position you're in, you're not progressing. And some of these are uncomfortable, but I keep pushing through because some of them I'm like, ooh, I'm not too familiar, let's say, in this area. And I don't want to sound like I'm not experienced in this area.
Jeremy (49:18.663)
like you have.
Ice baby (49:47.918)
So some of those conversations are a little uncomfortable, but it's okay. I'm like, let's just keep moving on. It's been a great, I love my podcast. It's a lot of fun. I really do.
Jeremy (50:04.103)
Well hey, if you ever want to have a guy who's never been on TV, come on.
Ice baby (50:07.758)
Okay, yeah, hey, call me sometime and we'll chat.
Ice baby (50:20.558)
That one was good. That was good. The audience is like, I don't get it.
Jeremy (50:21.799)
That's good. That's good. That's good.
Jeremy (50:26.951)
They don't have to. That one's just for us.
Ice baby (50:30.51)
That's funny.
Jeremy (50:33.671)
So given that there's evolution, that you're progressing, you're embracing discomfort for the sake of growth, what are you looking out towards? What are you looking forward to? What's next on the horizon? What do you hope for goals? However you want to phrase that. Talk about future.
Ice baby (50:53.194)
I want to inspire as many people as I can with my life here on this earth to better themselves in some way and take care of the one body we have. Take care of it. It's yours. It is something that you have complete control over.
100 percent. And if I can inspire and motivate people to move, move, I don't care if you're exercising indoors, outdoors, I don't care what you're doing, whether it be HIIT training, whether it be a bodybuilder, whether you're doing martial arts, I don't care. Just move and take care of your body.
because as you know, like you said it earlier, and that was our society, what they're putting in our foods are so, it's bad, it's terrible. You look back on a photo of Woodstock, let's take, I mean, what was that, early 70s, late 60s or something like that? You look in the crowd, the sea, the mass of people.
I'm gonna say maybe you'll find 5 % overweight. 5%. Now it's the reversal. Now you're seeing 95 % of the people it seems like overweight. And if you think about back then, there weren't any big box gyms.
Jeremy (52:29.127)
You know what I saw?
Ice baby (52:35.118)
There was a name.
Jeremy (52:35.591)
You know what I saw today that was really telling? It was a side -by -side shot of a beach from the 70s and a beach today.
Ice baby (52:42.282)
There you go. I saw the same picture I think side by side.
Jeremy (52:47.303)
That's all we gotta know.
Ice baby (52:53.966)
You froze right there. What did you say? That's okay. Say it again.
Jeremy (52:55.463)
Yeah, I saw a side by side today of a beach from the 70s and today. And that comparison, I mean, it seems like it's a different planet with a different species.
Ice baby (53:03.79)
Yeah.
Ice baby (53:07.502)
It's insane, isn't it?
Ice baby (53:12.198)
I would like to know, you know, everybody has their own take on it, why that is, you know, and I keep going back to the food source. I don't think people have gotten lazier. I really don't, you know, and a lot of people will blame it on that.
You know, I mean, there are certain situations and incidents, like I said, now there's two working parents and maybe they don't have the time, but you can always make time. But my big thing is that I keep going back to the food industry, what they're putting in our foods now, the saturated fats, the fruit toast, the sugars. I mean, it's crazy.
Go ahead, what were you gonna say?
Jeremy (54:02.567)
If you want to trip out, because we have enough data, we can look at the rollout of high fructose corn syrup in different countries, and you will see that there is a lag and a direct correlation with obesity and cancer rates. That after enough time, you can see it. It is the single, I'm not going to say it's the only reason.
But it is the, rarely is there a simple thing we could do to make a big change. Banning high fructose corn syrup in this country is a single thing we could do. And it would have been huge.
Ice baby (54:43.406)
Yeah, but then what would all the pharmaceutical companies make? How would they make their money on all their drugs? I know, I'm right there.
Jeremy (54:51.431)
So, audience, if we aren't around in a day or two after posting this, I'm not gonna speak for you. I didn't do it. I didn't choose that.
Ice baby (54:59.694)
No.
Ice baby (55:04.558)
you're so funny. I could see we're on the same page on a lot of things here.
Jeremy (55:11.687)
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Ice baby (55:14.734)
It's funny you say that in, I'm not even going there. I'm not even going there. I'm not even going there. I'm not even going.
Jeremy (55:19.879)
We should probably stop before we give them enough ammunition. So if people want to get a hold of you, if they want to find you, give us all the stuff. Give us the socials, the websites. Give us all of it.
Ice baby (55:25.422)
Exactly, exactly.
Ice baby (55:33.326)
my website is lorifetric .com and it has all my appearance dates on there, what I've done, what's upcoming. the playground warriors, the children's book is on there, the muscles mayhem live. that's all on my website, lorifetric .com. However, let's go back to the socials. My social media, lorifetric .ice .fetric. That's my social media on Instagram.
TikTok and Facebook actually. The Playground Warriors, we have our own website for that. It's on YouTube, it's on IG, and then we have the muscles and mayhem live .com as well. So that's pretty much to cross the board with everything that I've got going on. And I know that you said, where is this leading to? I'm just open.
It's like the universe is, I mean, I'm right there. I'm connected with the universe, the energy flowing in and out. And I'm just, you know, it's kind of like I'm doing my thing, keeping busy, keep moving. And it's just, you know, keeping my eyes open to what's happening and what's happening next.
Jeremy (56:50.631)
Great, I'm gonna throw it to you to close in just a moment, but to the audience, make sure you check out all that stuff, right? I know most of you are my age -ish. You remember American Gladiators.
Ice baby (57:01.838)
ish. I like that.
Jeremy (57:04.807)
So make sure you're checking this stuff out. Make sure you're following Lori and you're seeing what she's doing. And as an aside, when that book comes out, when that's ready, make sure you give us links to stuff, because we're going to promote that, because that's an amazing project. I'm really excited about that.
Ice baby (57:16.846)
It's on presale. I mean, if you go to, I know we froze there for a second, but if you go to the playground warriors .com, it's on presale. It is going to be out in about 30 days, but yes, there is presales on the playground warriors .com.
Jeremy (57:19.719)
but I'm gonna throw it back to you now. What?
Yeah.
Jeremy (57:34.855)
Okay, awesome, awesome. We'll make sure we get that stuff in. How do you want to close today? What do you want to leave the audience with?
Ice baby (57:37.006)
Yes. Awesome.
Ice baby (57:44.398)
Ugh, am I still frozen on your side?
Come on back, Jeremy. I know he'll clean this part up. There you go, you're back now. All right. I didn't want to close with it being frozen. I just really wanted to thank you for having me on the show. I'm super impressed and much respect to you. Everything that you're doing, the whole martial arts industry is amazing and I absolutely love everything about it.
Jeremy (57:56.135)
I'm here. I'm here.
Ice baby (58:17.134)
And I just want to say thank you. I mean, I don't know any other way to close your show except, you know, again, much props. Thank you so much.