Episode 922- G Anthony Joseph
In today's episode Jeremy chats with actor and martial artist G Anthony Joseph about his martial training, as well as his acting, and how each has affected the other.G Anthony Joseph - Episode 922
SUMMARY
In this episode, Jeremy interviews G Anthony Joseph, an actor and martial artist. They discuss G Anthony's journey in martial arts and acting, the importance of discipline and dedication, and the relationship between martial arts and acting. G Anthony shares his experience of playing both good guys and bad guys in movies and the different approaches to movement in combat. They also touch on the significance of stances in martial arts and the importance of relating movement to the intended action. G Anthony Joseph discusses the importance of reaction and preemptive action in combat situations. He shares how he developed his skills through methodical training and learning from his teachers. G Anthony emphasizes the need to maintain composure and adapt techniques to suit individual strengths and body types. He also discusses the importance of teaching and the exchange of knowledge between instructors and students. G Anthony highlights the value of pressure testing and the need for safety in training. He also touches on the significance of maintaining a calm demeanor and the role of trust in martial arts training. In this conversation, G Anthony Joseph discusses his martial arts journey and the development of his unique system. He emphasizes the importance of discipline, focus, and self-motivation in martial arts training. G Anthony Joseph also shares his approach to teaching and the challenges of working with students from different backgrounds. He highlights the significance of refining techniques and the value of trusting and listening to instructors. The conversation concludes with a demonstration of a specialized punching bag used in his system.
TAKEAWAYS
* Discipline and dedication are crucial in both martial arts and acting.
* The relationship between movement and action is important in combat.
* Stances play a significant role in martial arts and can affect the effectiveness of techniques.
* Martial arts can provide confidence and a sense of ownership in various aspects of life.
* The goal of every instructor should be to make their students better than them. In combat situations, it is crucial to focus on reaction and preemptive action rather than initiating an attack.
* Methodical training and learning from experienced teachers are essential for developing effective martial arts skills.
* Maintaining composure and adapting techniques to suit individual strengths and body types are key to success in combat.
* Teaching martial arts not only helps students learn but also allows instructors to deepen their understanding and improve their own skills.
* Pressure testing is an important aspect of training, but it should always prioritize safety.
* A calm demeanor and trust between training partners are crucial for effective martial arts training. Discipline, focus, and self-motivation are essential in martial arts training.
* Refining techniques is crucial for continued growth and improvement.
* Trusting and listening to instructors is important for progress in martial arts.
* G Anthony Joseph emphasizes the value of specialization and focusing on one or two specific skills.
* A specialized punching bag is used in TCF to develop precise and powerful strikes.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:11 The Intersection of Martial Arts and Acting
08:38 The Importance of Discipline and Dedication
14:16 The Relationship Between Movement and Action
20:42 Confidence and Ownership in Martial Arts
22:20 Making Students Better Than Themselves
22:55 Introduction
23:26 The Importance of Reaction and Preemptive Action in Combat
26:17 Methodical Training and Learning from Experienced Teachers
27:13 Maintaining Composure and Adapting Techniques
31:47 The Value of Teaching and the Exchange of Knowledge
35:49 The Significance of Pressure Testing and Safety
43:28 The Role of Calm Demeanor and Trust in Martial Arts Training
46:35 Martial Arts on Screen
46:41 Introduction and Martial Arts Journey
47:06 Working in Hollywood
48:16 Specialization and Focusing on Specific Skills
49:39 Teaching and Working with Students
54:25 Passion and Dedication to Martial Arts
58:08 Refining Techniques and Continuous Improvement
01:04:28 The Use of a Specialized Punching Bag
01:09:35 Conclusion
Show Notes
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Show Transcript
Jeremy (00:00.498)
Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome to another episode of Whistlekick martial arts radio. And I'm gonna place a bet right now that we will not have had an episode like this. Just the last five minutes with this man, stick around. I am talking about G Anthony Joseph, who if you're watching, you can see he's in his home gym. And I don't know, I don't know. We might.
We might have some physical stuff going on in this. Who knows what's going to happen? Anything goes. Yeah. We're going to talk to him in just a moment, but for the audience, you know, remember all the things that you can do to get more value out of these episodes and the other things that we do at Whistlekick. Why do we do it? It's connect, educate and entertain. We're trying to give you the best stuff that we can for free. Why? Because we want you to train. We want you to remain training, love your training, get people into training.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (00:30.846)
literally!
It's a little bit.
Jeremy (00:57.202)
Why do we wanna do that? Because we believe martial arts brings out the best in people. So our goal at Whistlekick is to get everybody to train for six months. You have a tremendous amount of influence on that goal. So talk to your friends, talk to your family, get people training, make sure they feel supported in their training. If you're an instructor, consider Whistlekick Alliance. We offer that to help you grow your school and reach more people. If you're a student, consider the Patreon, the training programs we have, Apparel, come to one of our events.
any of that stuff. It's all good and it's at whistlekick .com and if you want to get the best out of every episode it's whistlekickmarshallartsradio .com. Gee, welcome to the show.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:33.342)
That was exciting. Wow. How do I keep up with that?
Jeremy (01:37.57)
I don't know. Stop. We'll just end it right here. That was the shortest episode. You tapped out already.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:45.982)
my goodness. It's an honor to be here, Jeremy and Andrew, and hearing about Andrew's background and your background is absolutely amazing.
Jeremy (01:49.426)
I just wanted to have you.
Yeah. Andrew just, you know, their audience can listen to this too, but Andrew is going to do the editing here later on. Andrew, when you listen to this, we were talking about what an amazing drum instruct.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (02:11.102)
Yes, absolutely. I had no idea. My kids, my grandkids are going to go berserk when they hear that.
Jeremy (02:12.466)
Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy (02:17.074)
Yeah, you know, I've watched this man pick up drumsticks and imagine the, imagine the, the, the casualness with which I pick up this cup of coffee and I'm, you know, I take a sip of coffee. I've watched Andrew pick up drumsticks with that same look on his face and faster than my mouth can make that noise. And he just.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (02:28.126)
Yes, yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (02:37.182)
Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (02:41.694)
Absolutely. And that's an artist, Jeremy. You know, it's interesting that I had to play a role once where I was a contract killer and the director had me wear, I had never wear specs before. He had me wear specs and he said the words that he used in directing me was, this is just what you do in ordinary life. You don't have to try to do anything, but pull out your gun and kill people. So.
Jeremy (02:45.138)
But it is.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (03:11.166)
It affected every way. It was like eating breakfast. You don't draw the gun. You know, you draw the gun just, you know. Yes. So I relate very much to how to how Jeremy is and what you just explained.
Jeremy (03:19.538)
It's old hat at that point.
Jeremy (03:26.738)
Yeah. No, that's okay. I knew what you meant. I know I can't drum. You don't want me keeping beat at all, ever. I've heard from other actors it's more fun to play bad guys, criminals, villains. Is it?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (03:28.606)
Andrew is sorry. Yeah. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (03:45.95)
Yes, it's funny you bring that up because most of my career was spent playing good guys, cops, detectives, doctors. And then about two years ago, I did an audition and the director, Indian director, for a bad guy who he takes advantage of people in the desert. And I got cast and I said, why would you cast me? You know.
Jeremy (03:48.114)
You're smiling.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (04:14.91)
And he said, would you, so this was up to two years ago, I was always clean shaver. He said, would you grow a beard? I said, yeah. He said, no, no, like a real beard. And ever since then, two years ago, Jeremy, if you look at all of my roles, they've all been bad guys since. Everyone, except one or two, but all of them have been bad guy and it's really fun.
Jeremy (04:41.106)
I imagine it's cathartic.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (04:45.598)
Yes, yes, especially because you know like one of the things that he told me which I would never think of he said gee I don't want to see any kind of remorse in your eyes because this particular bad guy has zero remorse and That was a first because usually you play the conflict you do something bad and then you may have a little look that and But then you change and keep going but he said no gee this guy is just all about
Jeremy (05:12.69)
This is a sociopath that you were playing. Yeah. what a trip. How did you get into acting?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (05:14.814)
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife is here, she's watching me back there. I was, I was, but first of all, well first of all, we, I was, I was, if I go back on the history of the martial arts, we can get there, but I was actually, this is after the martial arts, I was,
Jeremy (05:26.162)
Is she keeping you on? Is she keeping... Is she giving you cue cards?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (05:44.926)
I went back to Trinidad to open a martial arts school from Baltimore. That's where I met my wife. And after about eight years or so, I was just sitting down one day. The school is doing great. And I said, I feel like I want a different creative challenge, something that's just like this martial art, but that keeps me on my toes all the time. And I saw Chuck Norris movie. And I said, which one? I don't remember. Maybe we're watching it on TV. And I said, I could do that.
Jeremy (06:07.442)
Which one? Do you remember which one?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (06:14.302)
I could do that. Next thing you know, we're on a plane to Hollywood. That was it. That's it. Just like that. That's it. Just like that. Yes. Yes. Because when I was 10 years old and my mother moved us from Trinidad, you know, we weren't doing well. She was already, she was divorced. She moved myself and my two kids from Trinidad to America, Baltimore. We, we,
Jeremy (06:15.41)
Mmm.
Jeremy (06:18.994)
You just, you said, this is what I want to do. I'm going to do it. Have you always been like that? That just, you get something in mind and you're.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (06:43.166)
A 10 years old, that's when she put me in martial arts and I remember Jeremy, I remember a 10 years old thinking, I wanna go back to Trinidad and open a martial arts school. Never changed my mind. Never, from that moment onwards.
Jeremy (06:50.13)
You remember the day.
Jeremy (07:01.682)
You commit? You commit?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (07:02.942)
Yeah, just like I commit to being in here, Jeremy, when you told me, when you told me that no one, that everyone comes on the show, and no one...
Jeremy (07:06.898)
year. those are those are the first punches thrown on a bag in the history of this show.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (07:15.518)
Like how, what could this be? How could you be having a martial arts show with no action? We gotta get some action up in here.
Jeremy (07:23.41)
Well, I already told you, I can't keep beat. So I don't know if I can read lines. I don't know if I can do a stunt or choreo. I could probably handle the choreography part. That part I'm confident. So if you're always that committed, I'm gonna put you on the spot. You said I could go anywhere with you. Your wife's in the room. When you met her, did you know right away?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (07:41.63)
Yeah, she is here.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (07:47.966)
She just did this.
Jeremy (07:49.458)
She shook her head.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (07:51.422)
She just did like this. No, actually, she was one of my students. I was, I think, 19 or 20, and she was 16, 17, and she joined. She was already one of my students. And it was only a couple years in, the secretary of the club, I didn't have anybody. And she said, I got to find you a date. So the secretary of my club would put me on these dates to go in Trinidad.
Jeremy (07:58.802)
Whoa.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (08:20.83)
wasn't happening. And one day she just said, well, what about Rio? And I said, Rio. It's like, she's my best friend. And I couldn't look at Rio any other way after that.
Married her in 1987, 37 years now, Jeremy. 37 years. Yeah.
Jeremy (08:37.746)
That's amazing. Now here's a subject that has come up and I've taken a, you know, I'm not going to hide the fact I've taken a strong stance that instructors should not date their students because it can lead to chaos. How did you handle that?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (08:54.162)
Right. Gosh, how did we handle that? First of all, you're in Trinidad. And Trinidad was, I kept a very, you know, like how people walk into schools and they say Sifu or Sensei. I was never that guy. I'd say, what were you calling me that for? Yes, I'm your teacher when we're in school, but as soon as the class is over, we're friends. Let's go hang out. And I did that for.
hundreds of students. So it was almost like a natural progression when we got together. It was like people kind of like, OK. It wasn't even a big deal.
Jeremy (09:34.738)
So what I'm hearing is from the beginning, you were very good at compartmentalizing your role into class and that outside of that, right? Now I can imagine that not everyone could handle that because some of my students now, they want to call me Sensei out of class. And I'm like, that's weird to me. If you feel the need to do that, that's fine. But just, I want to make sure you're not doing it because you think I want you to.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (09:44.414)
Definitely.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (10:01.854)
It was difficult to some people, but especially to Rhea. Imagine to this day, Jeremy, to this day, she still says, I'm still your student, teach me. If you see me doing something wrong in front of people, I'm demonstrated, tell me, tell me in front of everyone. I gotta still like that today. So she knew.
Jeremy (10:25.234)
She's still your student.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (10:26.462)
She still, yeah, that's how she considered it. I don't consider it, but she still, she says, I'm still your student. Let's go. All the time.
Jeremy (10:33.266)
I'm gonna make a guess here that there are times where you reverse that role where you are looking for feedback from her.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (10:43.806)
Okay, I'll give you a quick story. So I teach one private student every week, one. She's been coming for the past two years. This system, Jeremy, the TCF system is very structured. It has a true line from beginning to end. It's, if you pull out one part, it's like pulling a thread out of a piece of fabric. The whole thing just falls apart. So she would come, see that door? See that little door back there? That door leads to the house.
Jeremy (11:05.33)
falls apart.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (11:13.95)
So she would walk into the room sometimes, look on for two minutes and not say anything and walk back out. And when the class is over and I go in, she'd say, you didn't teach her this, did you? You forgot this step, didn't you? You didn't teach, I said, what? She said, yeah, I could tell. You need to go back. That's, right? That's, and to be able to recognize it like that, you know, she's still.
Jeremy (11:36.338)
Yeah, what I'm hearing is a very, very rare type of relationship and incredibly, even more rare in a martial arts context where even if there's a rank or an authority discrepancy, you're both making each other better and welcoming that relationship.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (11:51.774)
And I've been like that with all of my students. I never had the feeling that I'm here and they're there. It was just yesterday I was telling someone, I am just interested in making sure you're getting it right. Just want you to get it right. Whatever that takes to get it right is the most important thing to me. I wanna see them get better than me. You know?
Jeremy (11:57.49)
that says a lot.
Jeremy (12:18.77)
I think that is what, there are very few things that I'm kind of absolute on, but I think the goal of every instructor should be to make their students better than them.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (12:32.094)
Absolutely, absolutely, definitely, definitely.
Jeremy (12:36.754)
So when you go to Hollywood, you know, you've got this martial arts background. You were inspired by a Chuck Norris movie. Did you want to do stunt work? Did you want to do action? Did you want to do martial arts on screen or were you indifferent? Okay.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (12:41.054)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (12:50.782)
I thought I did, I thought I did until I got here and I realized how they peg you. Like, you know, if you're a martial art, you're always gonna be a martial arts. If you're a dramatic actor, you're right. Hollywood, and I love that about Hollywood. That has never changed. They peg you and it's hard to get out of that peg. So when I came here,
Jeremy (13:02.674)
Yeah. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (13:14.814)
I went back to Trinidad to produce two action movies which did extremely well and it was then I realized that I wanted to become established as an actor first. So I put all that martial arts stuff in the background. I didn't make a big deal of it. No, because it's only now, imagine that this is 1980s, 1990s Jeremy. We are now in 2024.
Jeremy (13:31.282)
Was that hard?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (13:44.798)
It's only over the last two and a half years I started posting my martial arts stuff online. So that now when someone called, gee, we see you have some experience, can you? So they, but they don't realize it was actually reverse. But.
Jeremy (13:58.674)
you ran these two parts of your life independently. Fascinating.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (14:01.214)
Yes, and I think, and that's what I wanted. I wanted to become established as hire me as an active first. By the way, wait a minute, we went on your Instagram, we saw that, my goodness, can you, you know, then that's what I always wanted. Yeah.
Jeremy (14:13.298)
Yeah.
Okay, okay, right on. And.
what were those early roles like in terms of learning that new skill set? Let me explain my question a little bit then I'll turn you over. I feel that the way we approach martial arts can be extended to anything, right? The way we learn, the way we process, the way we practice, the way we keep trying to iterate, get a little bit better each time. I imagine some of that was happening for you.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (14:30.878)
That's it.
Jeremy (14:51.41)
with acting, but when you started, no matter how much training you may have had, you're still kind of a white belt. So what was that like?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (14:51.55)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (14:56.446)
Yes. Yes. To this day, I tell everyone, you know, people ask, well, how are you able to stay so consistent and discipline about because you could have all the techniques and you can have this teacher you can go to for drama, this one for dancing, this one for voice. You can have all the best teachers in the world.
If you don't have the discipline to do it consistently, you're never going to get it. And that's what translated from the martial arts to this day, Jeremy, to this day, it's about that dedication and discipline. And the martial arts is what gave me that. Plus the martial arts gave me a sense of my teacher once said, when I walked into the classroom, he looked around at all the 40 people and he said, you ever notice how this man walks into a room?
Jeremy (15:25.746)
Hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (15:52.958)
Like he owns some kind of far off land and some kind of far, you know, one of those countries overseas. He's like a prince, you ever notice? And I never thought of that, but he said he walks in like he owns the room. And that's martial arts. That's what, that confidence, that's how it translated. And to this day, I credit it to that. And my teacher always said something. He said, martial arts was the only thing that didn't let him down.
Jeremy (16:13.426)
Discipl -
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (16:25.374)
People let him down, but martial arts was the only thing that never let him down and I have lived with that since. Besides my wife, she's never let me down.
She's doing like this.
Jeremy (16:37.842)
She's giving you two thoughts. I like it. The reason the reason my eyes got big with that Was because it's a I think a more eloquent way of saying something I've I've said for a long time Martial arts is is one of those rare pursuits that will give back exactly and only what you put it
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (16:55.07)
Yes. Yes.
Jeremy (16:56.37)
But I think saying it this other way, it's not exactly the same, but I think it's even more powerful and it's shorter and I always like shorter sayings. Martial arts never lets you down.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (17:06.75)
And here's another thing he always said, to always make sure that my technique works for myself and my students. If your opponent blinks, you're doing it wrong. It means he saw you coming.
Jeremy (17:17.874)
Mmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (17:19.55)
very interesting. And that actually, it may sound like a joke, but when you think about it, it actually makes sense on movement. Let's go.
Jeremy (17:28.146)
So let's talk about that for a second because there are two main schools of thought in how you're going to achieve that, how you're going to move, especially the initiation of motion without your opponent seeing it. It's either disguising that in some other kind of motion, right? Maybe your hands come up and that's in a defensive posture, but that's your excuse to get them closer.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (17:41.63)
Yes. Yes.
Okay.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (17:54.75)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (17:55.634)
This is the Bill Superfoot Wallace approach to things. Let's disguise it in motion or the way that a lot of in my training that I'm familiar with, Japanese martial arts to refine things to the point of having no extraneous motion whatsoever and to be so precise and so fast in what you do that you move before they can notice. Which one are you?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (17:59.038)
Yeah. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (18:21.566)
Yes, that's just part of it. That's the basic part. And I'm glad you brought this up. So, me, Gria. That's her. So she's listening back there going like this. So let me make this, let me see if I can make this very short and very succinct. If you are, can you see our feet there too, Jaremy, like that?
Jeremy (18:33.97)
Hi, welcome to the show.
Jeremy (18:51.442)
Now I can, yep. Yeah, I got feet now.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (18:52.142)
Yeah, so if if you're watching most combat today Like you said are you faking the person out to go somewhere so that you you you understand you're trying to get in there before they can blink Are you just doing it in a point where you're not going to telegraph emotions? You're just going to move forward to hit them those are just
anybody can have those qualities. The qualities and the thing that we don't see today, Jeremy, is relationship. Your outside movement has to relate to what you're about to do or no matter how fast you are, how much you can fake. If you meet somebody who can move fast and who can fake better than you, he's still gonna get you. But if you understand relationship,
Jeremy (19:46.002)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (19:49.15)
you can even the score even if you're not as fast. So a relationship would be something like this. If I'm here, I'm not gonna dance around like this and then go boom and then do that. A relationship would be that. So I'm relating, see that? I'm relating the outside movement to what I'm about to do. So it's like feeding the person the disease.
Jeremy (20:04.818)
Hmm.
Hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (20:17.534)
So the moment I move to attack, they can't tell, the eyes can't tell, is he just moving for moving sake or is he moving to hit me because it's one and the same. Does that make sense?
Jeremy (20:31.122)
Yeah, it does. It does. And to the audience, if you're listening, this might be one of those episodes that you go back and watch, because we're watching some pretty cool stuff on screen right now.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (20:42.046)
For instance, I had someone the other day attack me. Right? And that's typically what I do if I meet new people. That's the way to tell does a system really work or not. It can't be planned out, because if it's planned out, anyone looks good if something is planned. But when you have someone in front of you, you say, just hit me. So they try to hit me, move, and I hit them before they move.
Jeremy (20:56.434)
Hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (21:10.494)
I said, do it again. They tried to hit me a different way. I hit them before they move. They said, what am I doing? I said, you're stepping, you're picking your foot up. So the moment they pick their foot up, right, I'm either gonna catch them the moment they pick their foot up or the moment they put their foot down or somewhere in between. They said, well, how do I avoid that? I said, you have to relate the foot movement to what I'm about to do.
Right? So for me, I'm not just gonna go like this, I'm gonna boom like that, I'm gonna do that. So it's always going to be that, or it's going to be that. So it's relating to what I'm going to do.
Jeremy (21:51.794)
what I'm gonna make an effort to explain, because the majority of our audience listens rather than watches, even though we continue to post. We get more people watching than used to, but let me attempt to explain this for those who aren't gonna go watch. In the majority of martial arts schools, stances are almost, they're the last piece that you think about, right? It's,
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (22:01.438)
Yes.
Jeremy (22:19.602)
In a lot of schools, the stance that you are in is, as long as it doesn't restrict your movement, it is deemed acceptable. As long as you can throw that kick out of that stance, it doesn't really matter. What I'm hearing, or what I think I'm observing from you is, the stance is the first thing that you think about.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (22:39.39)
Yes. Yes.
Jeremy (22:41.906)
And then everything else follows because if the stance is right, you are so fast that whether you select this hand technique or that hand technique, it has a higher likelihood of, of working. So let's focus on the stance and the angles, balance, et cetera. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (22:55.614)
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Jeremy (23:25.522)
One of the things that I tell my students is there is no in a combative situation, there is no action. It is all reaction. Because even if I throw a ridiculous technique that isn't going to work, I'm still throwing it towards them where they are in some way that I think is going to be effective for me. So what you're talking about is getting really good at reaction and so good that you're preempting.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (23:33.342)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (23:55.282)
what they're going to do with your reactions. Yeah, that's really cool. How did you get there? Was this stuff you came up with yourself or was this stuff somebody planted the seed for you?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (23:58.686)
Absolutely. Absolutely.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (24:07.71)
Well, this is, this is, yeah, this is, so let me see if I can. So in the system kung fu back in the seventies.
I'm 10 years old.
It's only recently that I, so I had one or two main teachers and then I got, I stayed with one of the teachers after the school broke up. And then there was one other teacher I remember, he was undefeated fighting both kickboxing and tournaments. And he used to come into this room and teach me too. I spent 15 years looking for him. I finally found him a year and a half ago. So when I went back to Baltimore, we met up.
And I said, tell me, because I'm 10 years old, you're teaching me. And you know what I didn't realize? He was 14 and 15 years old winning these fights. So I said, how did all of this come about? He told me, he said, gee, when we were in a room with the two main teachers, he would tell me, he said, they would say, somebody would throw a punch, throw a punch, and we would move, right?
to either block it or moving and do a combination. And they would say, stop. Why did you put your foot there? Why did you parry this way? Why did you not have the hand here? Why did you not shoot this? Okay, now go do it again and think about these things. And that's how this came about. He said it was a very methodical and he said the one thing they kept saying over and over again was, we will not be brawlers. We will not be brawlers. We wanna be able to look like this under pressure.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (25:50.014)
So that's why the biggest drill they developed was that she can throw anything she wants, right? She can throw anything she wants and I can just be here and be able to parry or move it or kick or whatever the kick the case is and not even think about it because it's that reaction response drill of anything coming, whether it's a rush, whether it's a right and your butt.
The goal of the drill, you mean, was to see that, was to be able to stop it, to look at it and not be overextended and sloppy.
Jeremy (26:28.53)
Yeah. I think the other thing I need to remark on for the audience is the fact that she does not look like she's holding back. Which obviously that that's important at upper level training, but it's it's not something it is. And at the same time that she is not holding back, she looks incredibly calm. And so do you. There's there's a lot of trust and obviously, you know, that there's there's the relationship here and whatnot. But.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (26:35.742)
That's it. That's it.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (26:43.39)
That's a very good observation, Jere.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (26:52.542)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (26:56.926)
Yes.
Jeremy (26:57.65)
Usually when someone is making a demonstration, they're going to use the minimum amount of speed and force for the demonstration to look appropriate. I don't get the sense that you ever go 50 % if you don't have to.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (27:09.886)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (27:13.982)
No, and a matter of fact, I was telling someone the other day, I noticed that, I don't wanna be negative, I'm just trying to clear up why we do stuff we do, but I'll notice when people are teaching, it's a little lackadaisical, but they have to remember, people who are watching and trying to learn from you are not listening, they're watching. They're watching you so that...
Even if I'm demonstrating, and typically what I'll do Jeremy is I'll pull anyone out of the audience, whether I know them or not, and I'll say do something. But even if I'm demonstrating something, give me something, right? I'm demonstrating in a way that this is how, because you know they're watching you, they're not just listening. So I want them to be able to see how that technique works under.
The especially in this response, you see how she just did that, right? Especially in this response drip, where you start area, where she has on shin pads, where you don't know what's coming.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (28:23.198)
To me, that's the true meaning of pressure tests. The true meaning all the time, because you're only going to look under pressure the way you practice. And if those drills don't match, it's gonna look one way in the gym, and as soon as you get into a fight, it's going to be a wild crazy.
Jeremy (28:46.866)
It's a subject that's come up on the show a few times, especially of late, you know, it's kind of the the term de jour people like talking about about pressure testing because it is so important but of course, you know and I'm sure you would agree safety has to occur there people have to be safe, right you're not taking somebody in on day one and and Throw in full force full speed at their face saying figure it out. Right? There's obviously there's
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (28:58.494)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (29:05.118)
Yes.
Jeremy (29:14.77)
However you handle it, there is a progression there. I don't want the audience to think, well, G told me to beat on my white belts, and, cause they needed the pressure testing, right? No, that's not what he's saying, everybody. That's not.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (29:18.878)
salute.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (29:25.95)
And a matter of fact, she and I both hate actually seeing teachers teach students. You know, they're telling them to throw one thing and then they beat them up, throw them on the ground, hit them. I cannot stand that. I cannot stand that. I can't stand, first of all, anybody looks good telling them to just throw this punch or that kick. But the other thing I cannot stand is to take advantage and to knee them and to just to make a point. You know, it's just...
I cannot stand seeing.
Jeremy (29:57.17)
It's...
One of the first interviews that I did today, the subject of when you're training with people, you are making a sacrifice. You're sacrificing your body. You're providing a service to them. There's such an interesting exchange that happens in a martial arts environment. You know, the instructor learns from the students, the students learn from the instructor, the students are learning from each other. And if you're not showing up to say, I am here to make an exchange with you, to get better because of you and to help you get better.
It all, it all breaks down and what you're talking about, the instructors who take advantage of their students, they're, it's one way and it's ego and, and long time audience members know, I don't like ego. I don't like ego at all.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (30:39.646)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad we're on the same page. Yeah.
Jeremy (30:48.754)
Yeah, yeah, I think I think people I don't think you make it too long training
and keeping your friends with a lot of ego. And the people with a lot of ego don't come on this show anyway, you know, because they're afraid of looking bad, right?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (31:01.918)
Yeah, no, definitely.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (31:08.926)
Look, you had Bill Superfood in June -ry. I listened to the June -ry thing, but wow. Wow.
Jeremy (31:16.018)
I am so incredibly blessed, these people that I get to talk to. And, you know, of course, Junrey has since passed away. And so that's one of those that I look at. And I think, you know, I got a chance to talk to this man. And I recently moved and I've gotten rid of a lot of the things because I went from a home with two large garages and now I'm in a two bedroom apartment. But his book is one of the things that survived the move because he asked, can I send you my book? And he signed it and sent it to me. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (31:43.302)
he did. I heard that. I heard that. He said, give me your address. I'll send it.
Jeremy (31:46.642)
Yeah, most of my what remains in my library now are books from guests that they signed and sent to me and it just yeah, yeah, I'm humbled.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (31:56.542)
wow, wow, that's great. That's great, that's great.
Jeremy (32:02.418)
There are a lot of people who start training and they just...
They teach what they were taught. I'm not quite hearing that. I'm hearing, how do I make this better? How do I keep making this better? How can I make it better today than it was last week, than last year? And that suggests a certain kind of person. So why do you wanna keep making things better?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (32:11.038)
Mm -hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (32:27.006)
That's a really good, I just had this conversation with my teacher some months ago and it reconfirmed what I was doing. He is leaving his legacy behind and people like us who we taught, but he said something at that, when we sat down, he said, but you have to remember, this is my DNA.
It's not yours. This is my DNA. And that just confirmed to me what I've been doing without even thinking about it consciously like that is like, I am not going to attempt to live through him. Okay. He's great. He does this thing. Nobody can touch him, but I'm not attempting. A lot of people live through their teachers. Like if he's that good, right? I want to be able to...
Jeremy (33:18.258)
Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (33:21.79)
be proficient on my own. So it's the same principles, it's the same concepts, a lot of it are the same moves, but I have to figure, he's six foot one, I'm five foot seven. I have to, right? I gotta figure out, yeah, how to make what he's doing work for me. I'll give you a perfect example. Back in the 90s, I'm back in Trinidad in the...
Jeremy (33:36.434)
little different.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (33:48.862)
and we're traveling, I'm taking the students back and forth now to see him in Baltimore. And I still can't hit him. Like a lot of the class was just about fighting and getting this technique to work under pressure. And I remember sitting down, I mean, he just destroyed me. And I remember sitting down like this on the step and inside the dojo, my hand like this.
And one of my other teachers who was teaching me from the 70s, he sat next to me and he said, what's wrong? I said, I cannot hit this man.
And he said,
You keep trying to fight the way he fights. All I'm going to tell you is this. He's taught you angles. Step off the angle. Get off the point. That's all he said, which was a famous saying in TCF now. Get off the point. Jeremy, I went back to class two days later and he came at me and I stepped off the point and did a roundhouse, caught him the first time in his face and he stopped and he did like,
Okay, he killed me afterwards. He did, he did. But he stopped. And he did like that. And that's when I knew it hit me that I had to do it same move that I had to do it my way. Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy (35:02.002)
Of course she did.
but he was proud of you.
Yeah.
Jeremy (35:22.002)
So when you talk about that DNA of your instructor, I'm going to put it in different words, words we've talked about on this show. It's the idea that you'll never be him. At best, you are a slightly worse version of him, but you are the best version of you. So you can take what he's given you and make it better, because you can't improve things without changing them.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (35:26.558)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (35:34.046)
No.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (35:45.374)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (35:49.598)
Yes, yes. It's the same with Rhea. She is coming up in a class with boys. And as she's getting better, they, of course, boys are boys, especially in Trinidad, men are men. No girl's gonna hit me. Right? And they're coming at her and the way that she figured out to deal with them at her small size.
was to take those angles and make sure that everything mattered. It had to matter so that they think about that before they launch again, which is how she fought in tournaments. So it was never like, let me try this, let me try that, let me do this, let me see, it's not about that. It's like, when I move, you're going to know that it matters. And that concept by itself, Jeremy, gave her her own foundation.
to build on which is why you saw what you just saw. If I'm throwing something at you, even if we're demonstrating, it's going to matter. If you don't block, right? I said the other day, we were doing something for Instagram, boom, right in my eyes, I said, you hit, she said, no, I didn't. She said, no, I didn't, I didn't hit you. I said, yes, you did. Of course she gave me a hug and a kiss, but.
Jeremy (37:00.306)
sure.
Jeremy (37:10.962)
Yeah.
Jeremy (37:14.994)
I love it. I love it. It's, you know, it is not a common thing for married couples to remain training for a long time. You know, we've heard from a lot of guests who've come on that, you know, their spouse started training, you know, and it gave them a common language. You know, the spouse was able to understand, okay, I see why this is important to you. But then they departed and they went off, but this is something that is still really important to both of you. And I think that that's, yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (37:16.094)
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (37:36.51)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (37:42.334)
Definitely. I mean all the time. We are like, we just stopped like yesterday. Kareem come in the kitchen like, okay, I'm thinking about this and she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeremy (37:49.298)
Because you're thinking about something and you have a live in Uki. How awesome is that? I just realized, I didn't know it until this moment, but that's what I want. I want to live in Uki.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (37:56.446)
She's laughing.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (38:05.918)
my goodness. Yes, she and Mr. Dwight would have interesting conversations together. Yeah.
Jeremy (38:09.01)
Ugh.
Jeremy (38:14.578)
sure. I'm sure. Yeah. So.
Did you have, you had students before the formalization of TCF? I'm imagining there was a time, right? But you talked about before, maybe the name is...
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (38:34.494)
Well, that's interesting you bring that I didn't even know that because I'm learning in the system in Baltimore in the seventies. I'm 10, 11, 12, 13. So, right. And I went back to Trinidad at 20. So now it's 1980, whatever it is, 80, 81. It's only recently because of Facebook and Instagram, which I hated. And my daughter said, dad, Hollywood is going there. You got to get on.
Jeremy (38:36.946)
Okay. Okay.
Jeremy (39:03.058)
No? Mm -hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (39:04.35)
So it's only over the last three years I've been there. It's organized, it's being, you know, stuff is being posted. And I got a message from some kids in Baltimore and said, hi, Mr. Joe, remember you taught, I taught you when? 1970, like I wasn't even Trinidad yet. They said, yeah, you used to teach us in the basement of your mother's house in Baltimore. Why didn't you know that?
And there was like five or six of them, they said so and so died and so and so died, but we're still here, we just wanted to say hi.
Jeremy (39:39.09)
So you've always been a teacher.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (39:41.31)
I think from about 17 or 18, probably because I knew I wanted to go back home. It was all about going back home. I gotta go back to Trinidad. So let me see if I can actually make somebody that I'm, other people that I don't know who are not in the school teaching, you know? But you know what, Jeremy, a good memory just came back to me. I kind of remember now feeling good when I was being taught.
Jeremy (39:47.986)
Yeah. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (40:11.23)
and I'm coming up in the ranks and every now and then as I got better, I used to be called into the private rooms, just, hey, one of the instructors is like, can you teach this person just how to, yeah, I just remember that. And how great that made me feel. You know?
Jeremy (40:27.538)
You know, there's something so powerful about being able to share the things that we're passionate about, right? And people who are new to martial arts don't necessarily realize that when you teach, you actually learn even more. The ability to teach it, you know, you just, because now it's not just, here's what works for me, it's here's what works and doesn't work for all these people on the floor and you're.
you're collecting all these data points, right? I call it, you're building a database, but most of your training, it's like, okay, this works, this doesn't work, this works best for this person, okay, how do I make this adjustment here? And it's such a valuable experience, it's why I think everybody needs to end up doing at least some teaching at some point in their martial arts career, because you reach a point where that's the most rapid way to progress.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (41:00.446)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (41:11.102)
Absolutely.
Absolutely. And as a matter of fact, I always tell people this that...
If you really want to know if you can fight, teach beginners and every now and then put them in the advanced class just to throw something. Let me tell you, I tell people this story. In fact, one of those students, I just told him this story that he didn't know. His name is Omar and he stayed with me for years after I said, Omar, do you realize that the hardest I have ever been hit,
It wasn't in competition, it was in the dojo by you. He said, what? I said, you, you were a beginner. I was just showing people how to throw a right cross. I put gloves on you, right? And I put you in the class that I was training to go away to fight. And I was the one teaching, I was gonna go fight too. And here I am doing the driven unit corner and you hit me with that same right cross on how to do it properly. I had just showed, I saw stars.
for the first time in my life, only time, and it was then I realized, gee, maintain your composure. Right?
Jeremy (42:28.786)
If if you wanted I do not advise this right, but if you want to know how good you are as you know as a fighter with your material if you're an instructor invite one of your first day students to try to hit you because they will come up with the most ridiculous things that you never even imagined and you are not ready for them and Yeah
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (42:54.782)
It's not just ridiculous, Jeremy, it's the fact that they don't have that rhythm yet. And a street thing. Yes.
Jeremy (42:59.794)
Right, and that's what I mean by ridiculous. No, you're right. That's not really the best word to use. If you go to any martial arts school, the students are usually some mimic of the instructor. There's a common language in how they move, but your new students don't have that yet. They haven't been either trained or corrupted, depending on how you look at it.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (43:06.27)
Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (43:16.382)
Yes. Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (43:21.438)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (43:28.734)
And it's interesting, Kamjit, you bring that up. When I was training them, so if they're fighting each other, right? And I say one person blocks one person attacks, and she's attacking, right? Like that, right? And I'm defending, right? And I'm trying to defend.
Jeremy (43:53.714)
Okay, you all out there, she is gunning for him with the most, the most stoic look on her face I think I've ever seen of anyone in it. Yeah, yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (43:53.726)
Okay.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. But my point is that because they fight that way, when I was getting them ready for tournaments, I would invite other styles or other people to come in and just swing wild. Because your eye can recognize sometimes great technique. But the moment somebody does this, you're like, are they really trying to hit me with that boom? And then you get hit. You know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeremy (44:28.402)
Sure.
Jeremy (44:35.058)
Here, here. I'm not it's not 100%. It's well, I'm qualifying. I'm going to say it's like a 70%. Have you also taught people how to act?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (44:37.758)
Say it, say it, say it!
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (44:44.382)
Yeah.
yeah. In fact, over the last three years, too, people who see me on Instagram reached out and said, Hey, I've been with this for a while. I can't get, is there any way, you know, you can show me? And they come by now and they come. And the only thing I tell them is if I see that you're not listening, don't come back.
Jeremy (45:04.306)
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (45:14.046)
Don't come back. I'm not, you know, it's the same reason that I stopped teaching when I closed the schools that I had. I had one in Trinidad and then one in Long Beach. The Trinidad one closed up because I was just away after 20 something years. The one in Long Beach was closed because I got to see the transition from the 80s to the 90s to the where people were coming and going now. They didn't have attention spans anymore. That drove me crazy, Jeremy.
Because I have this umbilical cord that attaches to people to this day when I teach them. And it's like when they're gone, it's like, you don't realize that you hurt me too. So I just stopped. I couldn't take that coming and going anymore. So it's the same that I treat for people. Anyone that wants to learn anything that I do well, I'll tell them the same thing, you know.
Jeremy (45:50.418)
It hurts. Yeah.
Jeremy (46:03.762)
And that's the sign of a true teacher, right? And so that's, I was kind of deliberating on whether or not to ask you this question, because I got the sense that you are a true teacher and a true teacher is teaching everything that they know to anyone who will benefit from it. But, you know, if it can, if it works, right, there are logistics and everything, of course. But, you know, this other skill set of yours. Yeah, this doesn't surprise me that you're teaching people how to act as well. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (46:19.422)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (46:29.47)
Yeah, yeah. Thanks, man. Thank you.
Jeremy (46:34.482)
Have you had a chance to do a lot of martial arts on screen yet?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (46:39.282)
Besides the one I did in the 90s, recently, one, two, maybe one or two shows. And then recently I was very skeptical about doing this. It hasn't come out yet, but someone who knows me got called for an audition for a fight scene.
Jeremy (46:41.138)
You said that it was kind of new. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (47:06.398)
Here's how Hollywood works now. In fact, the whole world works like this. He said, hey, G, can I come over? Can you? I need to put together 30 seconds of me doing something. So, sure, come on over. So he brought a friend with him and we put together some clips and I made the mistake of posting it.
And I got two or three calls recently, Jeremy, from some Hollywood directors. Hey, I've seen that you might do some, can you come choreograph? So there's a good show, there's a sci -fi show coming out that I choreographed. It wasn't fight scenes like martial arts. The family was a family that just brawled with each other. So I had to put together some good brawls, but I was hesitant whether to say yes or no, because you know, my gosh.
Who did that? And then all of a sudden that's all they're coming to you for. You know?
Jeremy (48:00.178)
But if you've been at this long enough and if you can play a good guy and a bad guy and you can fight and you can do choreography, I would imagine that maybe this isn't how it works in Hollywood, but I haven't hired actors, but I've hired employees and I want the employees with the most diverse skill sets.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (48:16.094)
I understand that Jeremy, but I always had this way of being, it's what made TCF system it is today, very laser focused. I don't wanna be good at 10 things or three things. I just wanna be remembered for one or two very specific things that I can do well and I can pass on well. You know?
Jeremy (48:27.346)
Mm -hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (48:44.414)
Cause I've seen, I've seen there are people who could do many things, but I just wanted to, I've always been like that. And I think it has to do with, it has to do too with, you know, probably because when my teacher was teaching us, right? And he said, punch, right? So if you can, you open, yeah, you can punch, right? So let's say she's doing a cross off of backhand, right?
it's a punch, it's a shot, it's a... but it's one thing because he made us realize if you don't get one thing right and if you don't get it right, if I am able, if I cannot snapshot that punch in frame by frame and have every snapshot be right, then it's wrong. How do you want me to add 10 other moves to that?
Jeremy (49:15.858)
Yeah.
Jeremy (49:39.346)
Hmm.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (49:41.598)
So that one, you see what I'm saying? So even though you can build on that, to me there is always too much focus today on trying to do everything rather than focusing on that one thing. So whether it's a jab, right go, or a jab, cross, right? A jab, cross, and kick, and then boom, see? You know what I mean? It's like we forget that each one of those is a...
individual move first. You know? So that kind of translates into that whole, how many things do I want to get my hands in? Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy (50:12.082)
Yeah.
Jeremy (50:20.882)
Right, right, yeah. You know, the way you're describing this and also the way you talked about students and that connection, you know, I think we have this false belief in the martial arts industry that if you teach, you have to be able to take people from day one. And you don't. You know, I could imagine that if you had someone who'd been training 10, 20 years, they might make a great student for you.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (50:39.902)
Mm -hmm.
Jeremy (50:49.042)
because they've got a base to work with. Is that who you tend to work with?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (50:52.678)
That's so interesting you bring that up because my wife and I have been talking about because over the last year, year and a half, people are seeing this stuff and coming to us from different styles. And at first I was like, yeah, it's always easy to teach somebody who doesn't know anything. But now it's a challenge to take someone who does something and how can I, you know,
How can I adjust to make sure they get it too without them having to be back in Trinidad in the 80s? You see what I'm saying? So it's become kind of a really challenge. So it's a kind of a transition thing we're going through now to try and enjoy that process rather than say, I just pre -flipped it. They just hadn't learned it.
Jeremy (51:30.162)
Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy (51:38.194)
Mmm.
Well, you're right, it's easier. But if, you know, I'm thinking about when I started training with Bill Wallace, the requirement to earn rank under Bill Wallace was that you had a black belt from somebody else. And, you know, I'm not going to speak to his reasons, but if I was in your shoes, I would be looking at it as, yeah, there's probably some unlearning that has to go on, but at least they've shown their commitment.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (51:53.79)
Okay, right.
Jeremy (52:08.594)
they've shown that they're gonna stick around for a little bit. Because if, you know, I don't care how good of an instructor you are, if somebody doesn't show up, you can't teach them anything.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (52:12.542)
Definitely.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (52:18.654)
No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.
Jeremy (52:20.882)
I bet you could do really well on the seminar circuit. I really do. I bet you could.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (52:26.782)
I can't say anything right now, but there are some people who are now organizing for me to teach one of my wife's in Miami in August. So that should be quite, yeah, that should be.
Jeremy (52:30.386)
seminars
Jeremy (52:38.834)
nice. Nice. I wonder who that could be.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (52:44.862)
Yes, yes it is.
Jeremy (52:45.106)
I have no idea. I didn't know idea none whatsoever. These are coming out in opposite order, right? So recorded first, but yours comes out first So they won't have any idea who I'm talking about
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (52:55.294)
Yes, yes, yes. So I'm actually trying to figure out how to do things that just, it will just make that person a better fighter or mover. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Jeremy (53:07.25)
Yeah, yeah, I would love to get you to some whistle kick stuff because I, you know, some of the people who I know that come to our events would just eat, you know, just from watching it would absolutely eat this up. I'm thinking of one person in particular who's, who I just.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (53:21.182)
so cool. Don't make me cry. Stop it. Stop it. Don't keep going.
Jeremy (53:26.002)
If that's all it's gonna take to make you cry, I mean, but you know, I don't know if I trust you as an actor, you could be putting that on, just, you know, flip your switch, you know, you're pulling your dark memory, or maybe you pinched yourself off camera, I don't know how you're doing.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (53:41.886)
Or you go back and you say, wait a minute, did he CGI his wife? Was that moves, right?
Jeremy (53:47.474)
He wasn't even there. It's all a conspiracy. He's really single. That wasn't a real punch, that's digital. Yeah. That's why you blocked all of them.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (53:51.678)
Yeah!
There you go. There you go. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Love it, love it. I am so enjoying this Jeremy.
Jeremy (54:06.45)
this is a lot of fun. This is a really good time.
Do you, is there, can you imagine a path forward in your life where you stop?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (54:21.694)
Absolutely not. I would.
Jeremy (54:24.466)
nothing. There's nothing that could come up that would make you say, eh, I'm out. You would die.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (54:27.294)
I would die, I would die. I gotta be in here at least twice a day, Jeremy. For how many years now since I was 10, 11 years old? I go berserk. If I miss one of those, I have two a day. If I miss one of those, if I'm on set, I am coming home like this, Jeremy, from Hollywood, serious. Like that. Boom, it's okay, should you pull over and sleep? No, you know why?
It's 12, one o 'clock in the morning. You've got to get home to get that second session. And before you go to sleep, before you get to set the next morning.
Jeremy (55:01.778)
It sustains you is what I'm hearing. It's like food or air. It is something you need.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (55:06.558)
Yes, yes, but you know, it's like, I don't think martial artists realize how much of that translates to everything else they do in life. Right? Because if I don't need anybody to push me, I don't need to read a magazine. I don't need to see anything online. I don't need to read. I don't need to see anything. It's so that it that is a reminder of how I am self motivating myself all the time.
You know, and just that alone, that attitude alone translates into everything else you want to accomplish in life. You know, I did an interview recently for a movie and they said, what advice do you have for young actors coming up? And I said, my mother came to this country. I was 10 years old with my two younger sisters by herself. She worked from...
Two jobs, for seven or eight years I watched her do this. She worked from seven or eight in the morning at a secretary job, came home at three or four, dressed, was out the door by six, went to her holiday and waitress job, got home at one or two in the morning and she did that five days a week for close to seven years. Never complained, never complained. The only time she had a break was on weekends, the day job.
the secretary job she didn't, but she still had the night job, right? And I said, that's just not discipline. And so I said, so you're in Hollywood and you're complaining, right? Think of my mother. So that part of that discipline to keep going, that's where I think I got a lot of that from too, was her. And a matter of fact, she's the one.
Jeremy (56:34.098)
still waiting. Yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (56:59.87)
When I was getting beaten up from school in Baltimore, public school, and I said I wanted to do some kind of martial arts, she opened the yellow pages and she went like this. That one. And that's how I ended up doing this system. That's what she said. That one. Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy (57:16.69)
this just random, just a random guess and look at what that led to. You know, what, one of the games I play with myself from time to time is what, how many, how many things, how many incredibly specific, 1000th of a percent occurrences happened to get me where I am now. You know, if I hadn't met that person, if I hadn't.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (57:23.134)
Yeah, absolutely.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (57:40.958)
Mmm.
Yes.
Jeremy (57:45.106)
Made that phone call if I hadn't responded to that email, right? And our lives are full of them and whether you you Think of it as as fate or destiny or just random occurrence. I think You know it warrants some gratitude because You're you are so
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (58:01.278)
Absolutely. Absolutely, John.
Jeremy (58:07.73)
passionate about where this life has led you that you're going to put in your training time at one in the morning before you go to bed because you need it because it's such a core part of who you are.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (58:20.798)
And I want that to translate, Jeremy, when I'm teaching someone. If I'm teaching a room and there are 10 or 20 people, I want everybody to get it right. I am not going to say, OK, let's go do this drill and walk around and just do, you know, part of all of that of me being that way is for them. Because we're not leaving this room till you get that jab right. You know, what good is...
Not having the jab right and me adding 10 other moves. Got it?
Jeremy (58:52.05)
You definitely started training in the seventies. When does class end? Class ends when I say it ends. That's what I just heard.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (58:54.974)
HAHAHAHA
She is laughing, she likes that one. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. Yes, you know, I was watching something the other day and I sent it to someone and I said, you know what I don't like about this? How? they were explaining how there's a boxer now that he's shooting his jab correctly. Look at this, how he's doing it. And then they cut to Larry Holmes saying something and they were calling it old school. I hate when they use that word. It's not old school. It's right.
It's simply just right. That was the right way to throw a jab and a cross. You know, it wasn't old, right?
Jeremy (59:40.37)
It's I had a conversation with I think it was the first interview today and we we talked about this idea that
a student's willingness to trust an instructor starts out very high and then drops and then comes back up often, right? Because they start to learn some things. So, you know, talking about a jab and a cross, well, you know, well, I saw this YouTube video where this successful fighter in the UFC does this, right? And they start to doubt.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:00:01.63)
Hmm.
Jeremy (01:00:17.842)
and they go off and they take all these tangents and they try all these different ways and they say, okay, maybe that, maybe not that, maybe not that, maybe not that. And I think most of us who have been training for a while have had these moments of, all right, I guess my instructor was right.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:00:33.342)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeremy (01:00:33.97)
I guess the way they taught me was right. Where would I be if I hadn't spent all that time trying to reinvent the wheel?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:00:40.99)
Yes, yes, yes. As a matter of fact, I had to tell the one student I teach, I could tell that when I was doing stuff, sometimes it would get unwound. It would be, I'd have to do it over again. I had to, I said, you know what? Stop watching Instagram for a while. Stop watching all those things, lessons that are coming across. I need to get this into you properly first. Then you can go back. And she actually said, gee, you know what? You were right. It actually...
made a huge difference. So it's interesting you had that observation and bring that up. Yeah.
Jeremy (01:01:15.858)
If you're paying someone to teach you something, listen.
And I know that that that sounds ridiculous, right? It's overly simplistic. But how many people out there? It's like, I'm paying you. So we're going to do it my way. No, you're paying them. So listen to what they tell you. Because otherwise, if you don't trust them, why are you with the hair? Yeah. Gee, if people want to get a hold of you website, social media, you know, what what what stuff can can you share with them for them to connect with you?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:01:38.654)
Yes.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:01:42.11)
Why are you doing it? Exactly. Exactly. Love it. Love it.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:01:53.758)
The Instagram is at G Anthony Joseph, of course, G Anthony Joseph. I opened about a year ago, a very specific fitness Instagram page at Jet Fitness 9, just the number nine. And because of the interest over the last year, some people have gotten together and they're doing some behind the scenes work now, building a website and all that stuff.
And the email, the website will be up soon. The email for that is admin, admin at theganthony .com. Yeah, and there'll be a website attached to that, attached to that eventually. Yeah.
Jeremy (01:02:40.754)
Okay, cool. Cool. Yeah, we'll have that all that stuff linked at whistlekickmarshallartsradio .com for the audience, you know, folks. Remember, if you, I don't think there's ever been a better episode for me to try to strong arm people into watching, right? If you were, thank you for that, by the way. If you're listening to this, we're not done? Okay. All right. Well, we'll...
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:02:44.158)
Yeah, yeah.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:02:54.622)
-huh.
Before we go, we're not done yet. I got one more thing to show you. You tell me when we have the last two minutes.
Jeremy (01:03:05.682)
All right, well, I'll let you do that in the closing. We're starting to wind here. So just make sure you check out these episodes. If you're only ever listening, you know, we've got there's there's the YouTube it's at Whistlekick. It's easy enough to find. And I, gee, I appreciate you being here. I'm going to pass it back to you in just a second here. So real quick, whistlekick .com whistlekickmarshallarchradio .com our social media is at Whistlekick. Really simple stuff. If you want to support us.
The best thing is help people find the show. It's the number one thing that we can do because as we grow the show, everything else that we do grows. And it's just, it's a lot of fun and it lets us bring on great people like G here. So I'm going to pass the ball back to you and I'll let you close us up. And there's something's been planned. Something's been planned out here.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:03:54.27)
So this is one of the.
This is when people come to visit and they come outside and they come to this, this is what shakes them up the most. So most martial artists have a false sense of how hard they can hit because they're not used to hitting things or they just hit punching bags. But this particular bag is specially made for this system. It's called a lock punch bag or a kill shot bag. And it's heavier than the big punching bag inside. Special stand is built for it, for it to hold that weight.
It is hard like a rock. So I feel after you stuff it with sand, you stuff it again. Then you stuff it with sand and you stuff it again. Then it rains and then the sun hits it. And then it keeps getting harder and harder as time goes on. And what happens is the reason why most people are shocked when they come in, they hit it and they hurt their hand is I try to tell them, you don't understand the physics of hitting something.
Jeremy (01:04:31.442)
What's it filled with?
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:04:55.87)
If you're trying to hit something like this and slam your hand the way through, if and it what surprises them is I have no scars, no calluses or any where they say, how are you hitting it? Because it's all about the ability to strike this thing and snap in and out. The moment you drag, you're going to pay for it right away. And that's what these punching bags and all of these types of speed balls.
have people doing, they don't realize they're dragging their shots when they're hitting. If you hit this thing wrong just once and you drag it across, it cuts you instantly, right? Or you hurt your hand. So that I always bring them out here to see this, because this to me is the ultimate test in how to really hit something from any angle and not hurt your hand at all. So that's what I wanted to end with, because I knew you would love it.
Jeremy (01:05:52.338)
I love them. Yeah, this is great stuff. Thanks for being on the show, man. Thanks for taking this ride with me. And thank you to Rhea. Thank you to your live -in Uki.
G Anthony Joseph / TCF The system (01:05:56.158)
Yeah. man. It's, it's, it's a, no, I'm sorry. Come to the end. Thank you so much, Jeremy. I'm just so honored. You have no idea to be on this show. So honored.