Episode 661 - Rapid Fire Q&A #9
In this episode, Jeremy and co-host Andrew Adams take on another iteration of the Rapid Fire Question and Answers.
Rapid Fire Q&A #9 - Episode 661
Jeremy and co-host Andrew Adams tackle a series of questions from you, the listeners, in the form of a Rapid Fire Q&A. Here are the questions they tried to answer:
What does it look like for an instructor to take a break?
How do you teach students to teach/mentor other students as they advance?
Can you offer advice and martial arts mentorship to someone if they approach you for your experience even if they practice something completely different?
…and one more surprise question!
After listening to how Jeremy and Andrew answered these questions, it would be exciting to know what are your thoughts about it. Don’t forget to drop them in the comment section below!
Show Transcript
You can read the transcript below.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Welcome to a special, live recorded version of whistlekick Martial Arts Radio. I don't know the first ever, ever done this before. We've taken stuff we recorded live and put it on the podcast feed. We have not intentionally taken a podcast and brought it into the live feed.
Andrew Adams:
That's true. I was thinking of whistlekick lives that have helped.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, for which, honestly, it was the 18. We did 18 episodes that Gabe and I did that have led to us doing this episode today. So, if you're listening or watching later, please no, we're going to have a little bit of a longer intro than we typically do. Because we wanted to give people time to get here, we didn't set this ad, we weren't quite sure exactly when we were going to go live and instead of trying to fight for a timetable that we didn't have, we thought... you know what? Let's just do it. And if people can join, they can join awesome. And it does look like some people are popping up in the feed. So, that's pretty cool. Happy for that. Hello, Joe. How are you, my friend? Hopefully, I'm going to see you this Saturday. Fingers crossed. Okay, what are normal intro stuff? Let's do our normal intro. Do you want to try it?
Andrew Adams:
Oh, gosh, no, no, no, fasten that one.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You're not going to take them all around with it. Okay. All right. So, let's go over all the things that we do here at whistlekick, we're not even... Most of them... go to whistlekick and we can hit all of them. No, because I honestly forget, go to whistlekick.com and that's where you're going to find the roots of everything. We bring everything back to them whether it's whistlekickprograms.com, our social media, our blog, journal, whistlekickmartialartsradio.com black belt, social media. First cop, like so much all the books, tons of stuff. But there is a store and, in the store, you can get stuff like your hat, my sweatshirt. I should have planned ahead and had a whistlekick mug to drink my coffee out of but didn't even get the mug. If you use the code PODCAST15 to get 15% off all that stuff.
Andrew Adams:
Except when you're silly like me and forget. So, when I bought my hat, I forgot to use the code PODCAST15. So it just meant I paid full price.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Well, fortunately, it's not a really expensive hat. That's 15% a few dollars. Okay, other housekeeping intro things. If you are watching this live, we encourage you to interact with the show. To see what are you trying to figure all this out? We're only doing this one on Facebook. We do the first cup on Twitter, YouTube and Facebook. But again, we have to start slowly. The plan is that we will keep doing these live shows probably once a month. And if you've got feedback, Jeremy@whistlekick.com Andrew@whistlekickmartialartsradio.com. Yeah, I think that's a solid intro.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, man. Not bad. You know? Maybe it starts here and what you're doing
Jeremy Lesniak:
Right now, it's a Q & A episode.
Andrew Adams:
It is a Q & A.
Jeremy Lesniak:
There are some Qs that I'm going to...
Andrew Adams:
I have some Qs right here for me today.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Sounds so inappropriate.
Andrew Adams:
And then maybe we find something else there. So, we mentioned that in the beginning, the intro that you gave was pretty instrumental in just how this is going to work right. Doubted for sure. The first question is from Gabe. Yay. So that's pretty cool again. So here we go. Here's the first question of our Q & A. We got you guys, our audience. You can't see it down here. But I've got a timer. So, we're giving you just five minutes, five minutes. All right. Questions from Gabe. The question is, you've talked about students needing to take a break from training. What does it look like for an instructor to take a break?
Jeremy Lesniak:
We can slice this to an instructor taking a break from instructing an instructor taking a break from training entirely, which does...
Andrew Adams:
He doesn't give a distinction; my guess would be from instructing.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay. And that's what I would guess as well. Anybody who has put their heart into anything knows that you need time to recharge. And the average martial arts instructor runs multiple classes per week. They don't get to train on their own as much as they would like to most of them by numbers, in my experience, have some other job, you know, usually like a full-time job and they teach martial arts a couple times week, they're probably they've got family friends, they probably have a hobby outside martial arts, it doesn't leave a lot of time. It doesn't leave a lot of time to step in and be passionate and give everything that you are in half to your students.
And if you do it for a while, you tend to burn out. And I've trained with instructors who have burned out. And maybe more importantly, I've been an instructor who's burned out. I had a school for a couple years. I loved it; I threw everything I was at those students. And they progressed rapidly, it was awesome to see I was so proud of them. And I was proud of my ability to help them on their journey. But I noticed about 18 months in that the other things going on in my life were just robbing that energy. And just the fact that my karate classes were at the end of the day, everything else came first, literally. So, I'd stepped into class and I was drained when I got there.
Now, there are times most of us have experiences where you step into training, and you're drained and you feel invigorated from class. And that would still happen from time to time, but it wasn't every time. Yeah. So, what does it look like? What it looks like, it depends wildly on whether it's temporary or permanent. And my recommendation is always that it's temporary, before it's permanent. There are times where you know what, if I take two weeks off here, you know, cancel this to these two classes or whatever I can have like a week and a half, it's kind of the way people play their vacation time. Like a full-time job, you know, we're working holidays right? Like you can do something like that. But I think it's important then to find what is going to sustain you so you can come back to it.
I'm always sad when an instructor feels burned out, and they just stop. And it usually comes down to an imbalance in what they're putting in versus what they're getting back. And if they feel sustained in the rest of their life, it's probably because they're not putting a priority on their own training. Hmm. Interesting, which means you've got to hit seminars, you've got to go train with somebody else, you've got to make time with your instructor, you've got to do whatever you can do. And here's the lowest hanging fruit. I'm going to open the school on Thursdays from seven to eight, I'm going to focus on my own training, I would love other people to come in and focus on their own training. So, I have other people around. So, I can't be lazy about it. Because most of us do better in a class environment for that reason.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, very true. Very true. I've known instructors who have only taught and they taught more than just kids. They taught adult classes too, but they only taught during the school year. They took the summer off.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Difficult business model, but yeah, it's an option.
Andrew Adams:
Yep. Yeah. Interesting. All right, cool. People watching or listening might want to help support the show.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Hopefully they do. Hopefully you like what we do. Hopefully, if you're still watching or listening, you probably at least tolerate what we do.
Andrew Adams:
Right now, we have a couple watching.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Hey, what's up people watching live
Andrew Adams:
One of the ways they can help support us was through our patreon.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Patreon, patreon.com/whistlekick, we've put a lot of resources into that over the years, year and a half, I think that that's been running maybe to some of my time is fuzzy for me. When it started, it was like, okay, here are all these things that we're going to do. Jump in and pick your tier goes from $2 to $100 a month, you can pick and we have people at every tier. Not many of them at the $100 mark, because if we did, then we would make a bunch of money, but it's not a lot of people who shout out to the people who are contributing. The second iteration of Patreon was when I realized that the printing partner, we use the Linden made that happened when I made this sweater, was also tied in to Patreon for merch. So, I could go in and I could take these designs and it's just automatic, you know, after X period of time, at this tear, you get this thing. And so, I dug in and really came to understand the platform, is that okay? At this tier, we're done, boom, exclusive designs offered once and it's already on my calendar. Like the day I set this out. I set an appointment on my calendar for almost a year to revise them all. So, there was zero risk that someone would get the same thing over again.
Andrew Adams:
Oh, cool.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, that was pretty important to me.
Andrew Adams:
That is pretty cool. So just yesterday, I received an email from PayPal. I am also a Patreon. Different Patreon subscribers, even though I'm a host, Co-host of the show, I still pay.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, that may not make sense. But the takeaway is that Andrew values what we do out above and beyond what he does.
Andrew Adams:
Absolutely, by far and away, I value the show and what it brings to the community. And as a Patreon subscriber just yesterday, because it was November, I got an email saying, “Hey, be on the lookout. Here's the address we have on file, is this correct? Because we're going to send you something”.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Something, what could it be?
Andrew Adams:
I have no idea.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You don't either. The first, I remember, I did all these...
Andrew Adams:
First months, there's a sticker, I got a free whistlekick sticker just for being us. Didn't cost me anything extra, it was just free. So, I have no idea what's coming later on this month as being a Patreon subscriber.
Jeremy Lesniak:
From what I remember of what I did in each tier. It's quarterly, every three months, you get a thing. And then the fourth quarter, it's a bigger thing. Oh, cool to reward you for being around for a year. Yeah. Now, it didn't look like there was a way I could do it. Where if you just kept going like that I could keep increasing the value. I've got to hit the reset button on that after a year. So, we'll probably continue that, you know, so a sticker, you may get a different sticker I tried. We do a lot of funky graphic design stuff. So, I tried to make sure in fact, I'm thinking of one of them now. I'm remembering all the time I put in tweaking that design. Because it came out. I wanted it to be super cool. And you know, they're not like cheap stickers. They're like, yeah, yeah. And, you know, at higher tiers, you know, there's shirts and hoodies and all kinds of stuff that people were contributing anyway, honestly, why did I do it? It's the hope that people will stick around a little.
Andrew Adams:
Awesome. Alright, so a couple people in the chat here, we've got Craig, the thumbs up, which is great. And then Stacy gave us some quick readings before she's going to run to a new meeting.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Nice. Thanks for joining, I let everybody know on the first cup today, and if he had been over last week that this would be coming.
Andrew Adams:
And if you're going to be in the chat, you want to ask a question for the Q and A for Jeremy, please go ahead and send it in the chat. I'll go ahead and maybe I'll replace one of the ones I'm going to ask.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, we're at the very least we can, you know, we can run the clock a little bit longer. Sure. All right.
Andrew Adams:
Here's the next question. Which, you know, Stacy is in the chat. So, I'm going to ask Stacy's question. Let's do it. So, a question she asked a while ago for me to add to the list of how do you teach students to slash, mentor and correct others as they advance?
Jeremy Lesniak:
The simplest answer is by modeling the behavior that you want them to have. Right? We recorded an episode earlier, talking about the culture of critique within martial arts. And the biggest challenge new mentor's assistant instructors have is they get really bogged down in details. And because it comes from a good place, they want everybody to do it. Right. Yeah. You know, and it's the best example I can give, is somebody teaching a forum, and they're not even the person learning, it hasn't even gotten to the end. And they're adjusting their hand positioning and all this stuff. It's out of order, it's out of sequence. If you leave people to them to fend for themselves, working with others, it's not going to go well. You have to teach how to teach. Well, learning how to teach is a skill, it is not a skill that comes inherently in just learning material. I know math. Not going to make a great math teacher, huh? I know, something else I know. I know how to write; I would be a terrible English teacher.
And actually, that's not true. I might be a decent English teacher. Because the best English teachers I had just kind of like showed up and we read books. I could do that part of it. But in terms of being a formal educator, I would need to go to school to learn how to educate. And I think that that's something that we take for granted in the martial arts in a way that we don't do it in other industries. We assume that if you know the materials to teach the material, that's not the same. I am a firm believer that the moment you can put a couple things together, you should be involved in the education of other students. If you can get through the form. You can show somebody else the form, no, you're not going to be great at it. They're not going to be great. There are all kinds of places where you're going to teach the wrong thing. Guess what, I've taught the wrong thing as a Bible, like it's going to happen. Me too. But if it's a skill, if teaching is a skill, you got to practice it. And that's one of the things that I think really enhances the culture of a school is you break things out, and you let people share their information with others. Generally lower rank, but it doesn't necessarily have to be.
Andrew Adams:
Alright, good. Some stuff in the chat here, Craig thought that was a great question. Shout out. Shout it out to Stacy that he appreciated that kind of question. Stacy actually in the chat says, I posted this as I've been doing a lot of work on mentoring and coaching in professional settings. And a lot of those same sorts of things carry over into the martial art world.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, I think I would start from the same place. And maybe that's because I see the world through a martial arts mindset. You know, that's my context for life. But if I'm working with someone, you know, see someone on the team, you know, when I talk about the team, you know, you are part of the team, but there are quite a few people behind the scenes who work on things. And when I'm working with them, I'm giving them opportunities to screw up. I am holding them accountable. I'm pointing out what they did right or wrong. I'm cheering them on. I'm when the time is right, encouraging them to work together on things for someone to show that someone else something. And I think all of those things are equally appropriate, though not necessarily to the same degree. Yeah, the situation matters. Yep. But in a non-martial art.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, perfect. You want to transition into talking about people reviewing?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, yeah. So, we were big on this early on. We're not as big and have not been as big on it. We need to be bigger on it. Now. There are three main places people can leave reviews, if you've not left us a review, it is the most impactful thing that you can do to help the show. Google reviews, Facebook reviews, Apple podcast reviews. Secondarily, if you really want to go deep, Spotify, Google podcasts, any podcast place, we don't care about Yelp. I will continually say that because Yelp is a terrible company with a horrible business model. And our Yelp review probably just went negative or something now. That's okay. Yeah. So, what we're going to do, each time we do one of these is randomly pick a recent review. And that person can email me Jeremy@whistlekick.com. And then we'll get a gift certificate to the whistlekick.com store.
Andrew Adams:
Just simple, simple.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, you help us out. You might win some stuff. You're not required to leave a five-star review. But if you actually care about getting the gift certificate you probably think highly of so you're probably going to leave a five-star review. Yeah. But you know, for legal reasons. I can't say that you have to.
Andrew Adams:
No, no. Awesome.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, let me read this one that I picked out. My laptop didn't shut off. Oh, it did. No, it didn't.
Andrew Adams:
Tommy agrees Yelp is horrible.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, so this is a review from that wasn't the... Go away? Go away. This wasn't the person who left the podcast review last time, was it? No. Okay, good.
Andrew Adams:
I don't believe so. Gosh, I hope not.
Jeremy Lesniak:
They were two.
Andrew Adams:
That would be funny.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, the names are familiar, but maybe not for them. We'll find out later on this week one. So, Daniel posted on Facebook. Podcast is amazing. Love the different topics. The host was very responsive to my email, and helped me find specific podcasts on the topic of getting back into martial arts. I have now jumped back in and enjoy listening to his podcast daily. Sweet. Thanks, Daniel.
Andrew Adams:
I'm also going to make a note to make sure that we read them.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah. So, we're figuring this stuff out. Right? Like, what you're getting with this episode is the [00:18:51-00:18:52] version of Martial Arts Radio. And I think it's fun when we, you know, one of the things that we realized coming into this was we needed a little more planning on this stuff. Yeah, a little more accountable.
Andrew Adams:
And that's okay. And who knows, it is entirely possible that was the one we did last time.
Jeremy Lesniak:
If that was the one we did last time, then you know what? That means that other people really fell down on the job. Yeah. And it means that Daniel probably went across the whole arc of review sites and went...
Andrew Adams:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, there you go.
Andrew Adams:
Okay. Okay. Question. Are you ready for question number three?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Question three.
Andrew Adams:
Okay, so Stacy's question lasts. That's not how you punched out. Stacy's question last week about mentoring. Yeah. And so, I thought I'd follow that up with a question from Francis [00:19:38-00:19:39]. Ah, yes.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Become such a good friend.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, absolutely. Great guy. I love it. Love watching his show on YouTube. His question also is about mentorship. Okay. And his question is, can you offer advice and martial arts mentorship to someone if they approach you for your experience, even if they prefer because something completely different in a different system and school?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yes.
Andrew Adams:
And how would that work?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Depends, okay. So, that is easy because if I'm getting out of mentorship versus actual instruction of technical material, I don't care what you do, I could mentor you. I can mentor a kid, right? Like, what's the job of the mentor to help foster growth? What's the job of a martial arts instructor to help foster growth? If you train, I don't know what's the most polar opposite of my skill set, it's probably like wings, maybe we should probably actually, she was probably better. I can't teach you whooshing. I can't critique your movie. But I can encourage your training, I can hold you accountable, I can reflect back to you what you want me to watch out for? I could train you physically. I could spar with you. There are a lot of things that I could do. And I think if we're focused entirely on the correctness or accuracy of technical movement, I think we're missing the boat. Right?
For most of us martial art is more than just technique. It's about personal growth, it's about the lifestyle, it's about the connections, it's about all these things. And if we look at those things, it works. And one of the things I like about stepping out of that a little bit is it means cross training can take on a different attitude. I long for a day where I can travel, walk into a random Martial Art School of any kind, take a class, glean what I'm able to in that class, and not be looked at as a complete weirdo. Because let's face it, that is what would happen in most schools. Now. if I rolled up to a [00:22:04-00:22:06], the entire conversation would be about. So, you want to join the school and train here for a while? No, I just want to take class. I just want to drop in. This is something that happens at gyms, it happens in a lot of other physical disciplines. And I think it builds goodwill. It's one of the things that a lot of people know. I was involved in CrossFit for a very long time.
I'm not currently sure whether or not I will go back to that, I don't know. But one of the things I really appreciated about CrossFit is, I could travel anywhere, drop into a CrossFit gym, not know the people, not know the coaches. The movements were the same, which makes it a little bit easier. But the culture was celebratory of that. Hey, and we've got Jeremy visiting from Vermont today. Yeah. Hi, Jeremy. Cool. It was fun. I built friendships. I was watching a CrossFit competition. And somebody was like, You're the guy without shoes. Because I work out without shoes in pretty much every aspect of my life. If I answered that...
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, I think so I think the other aspect that you're completely missing is mentorship doesn't have to just strictly be martial, right? Marketing, how your school runs and operates, that ratio is huge right? Can we still be mentored? Regardless of what style you do?
Jeremy Lesniak:
So yeah, if someone ran, keep down this path of [00:23:34-00:23:36] wanting to run a wushu school, I think I could do a pretty darn good job helping them get that off the ground, marketing business systems, etc.
Andrew Adams:
Yep. And a lot of a lot of the programs that we have are style agnostic, intentionally. So, you know. And so, let's talk a little bit about the programs. Okay, that might help a school as a mentor.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah, yeah. So, we have four core programs, flex force, fuel fast. And that came as a result, the names got rebranded if you've been around for a while, they were called strengthened conditioning, speed development, and flight conditioning. And then we won't watch the flexibility program and I didn't want to call it flexibility. And I just flat one day, it was like, flex was looking at flex. And I was like, oh, I like that. And I was like, but these all kind of connect puzzle pieces. And so, I did the puzzle piece logos and was pretty pumped on those. And I realized that the names were too long. Flex worked as a name. So, it was like, what could I call these and the apps were accidents. Once I got three of them. It made sense to start with apps. I was like, okay, I have to shoehorn the other one in so I'll let people guess which of the you know, it wasn't flex but which of the other three was the one that got shoehorned in is the fourth F. Four apps, I get four apps. One of them is free. But the FAST program, you know, a lot of my understanding of the body and how the body works came out of training and coaching, CrossFit, because unlike most traditional martial arts schools, the philosophy in that community is about science research latest. And I did a lot of testing on people whose coaching was like, try this. Try this. Try this. Oh, that worked. Okay, mental note.
And so, when we put together these programs, specifically, the FAST program, I needed to do something different. Because if I asked most martial arts instructors, how do I get faster? We'll just do a bunch of techniques as fast as you can. Until what point huh, yep. Well, you know, just do a lot, okay. So, if I can go at, let's just pick a number, if I can go at a speed of 10. And I want to get to 11. And I'm doing a whole bunch of 10s. And then I'm doing nine, and then eight, and then five, which has actually conditioned my body to get slower because I put in more reps at that slower speed. And so, the FAST program was all about how much load can people handle, it's a different amount. And that's kind of the secret sauce in there is that the program allows enough individualization that you can get faster at any technique you want, because the principles are the same. The training protocols are the same: you just plug in your own technique, guess one technique, and you will get faster. It does work. There are people out there using it, it is less expensive than using whistlekickprograms.com.
Andrew Adams:
Awesome. Craig actually made a comment in... Craig made a comment about the last question that for instance, he feels that sometimes we often get bogged down in particular that a system or style of mentorship can come in many facets, which is very true. There are always gems to be learned in the right partnership.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Absolutely. Well said and very unsurprising coming from someone who does such a great job mentoring people. Work is exceptional.
Andrew Adams:
Alright, so you ready for our last question?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Let's do it.
Andrew Adams:
Okay, so this came from [00:27:13-00:27:14], who I found out recently. His cousins have a very good friend of mine. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, very rare. This is what happens when you're from the northwest [00:27:24-00:27:25] but we are all related. He actually sent it this morning at 7:30. He said, hey, can you get this in the next Q and A? And I said yes. If he gives me right now. I'll read it today. So here it is. Would you rather...
Jeremy Lesniak:
I've never had a would you rather that wasn't woefully inappropriate. So, I know this. I'm not so I'm just getting that sort of mind.
Andrew Adams:
Would you rather have to fight a chicken every time you get in your car? Or an average adult orangutan once a year? Oh, welcome to whistlekick Martial Arts Radio Q & A.
Jeremy Lesniak:
How long do I have to fight the chicken? Is it to the death?
Andrew Adams:
Okay. When condition one participant unconscious or unable to continue?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Does fighting the chicken include throwing it out of the car?
Andrew Adams:
No win conditions? Is one participant unconscious or unable to continue?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Well, yeah, they're not in the car. They can't continue but I see your point. I would end up with PTSD about the chicken. I think it would have to be the orangutan. But they're monsters. Now, he wouldn't have to come prepared.
Andrew Adams:
He said that you would get a sword for the orangutan. Oh, I think that makes it. I think it makes it easier to eat. I think that makes the decision too easy. So, I chose to not redo that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Orangutan with the sword chicken with my hands you know chickens can be brutal in like if this is like a train chicken. Chickens really the kick though? Yeah, but if I'm in a car how am I kicking a chicken.
Andrew Adams:
Every time you get in your car, okay, it's right there.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I'm envisioning like I get in the car you know I get in I shut the door and now there's a chicken. Okay, and now I'm fighting this well, it's probably more here fighting this chicken. And it's flapping and it's just the whole scene.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
But I get in and out of my car a lot. Yeah, me too. Like the idea you know? I wouldn't have a car anymore like I'm just I guess I'm not going to bring that to the post office.
Andrew Adams:
So, you do well when you just do everything online.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I would have to. I would probably not have a car.
Andrew Adams:
Or you only drive your motorcycle.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Flex Jeremy driving in the cold by Jeremy so called something about a chicken Alright, so that was a question that was a good one to end on. Yeah, I would probably lose...
Andrew Adams:
Your title. I think we probably all would. I don't know with a sword though. See, I think a sword makes it a lot of a decision to make.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I could probably lop off a hand and then it would probably be so freaked out it would run away. Yeah, probably.
Andrew Adams:
We don't encourage this though.
Jeremy Lesniak:
We do not subscribe to the abuse of animals of any sort.
Andrew Adams:
For any reason. Okay. Okay. So that was the last one. We like to end. I like to end in a fun way. Fun or funny.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I appreciate that. All right. Well, thanks for joining us for the first ever live Q and A episode. Is there anything in there...
Andrew Adams:
Tommy agrees you definitely wouldn't have a car anymore
Jeremy Lesniak:
Almost sounds like he's speaking from experience. Could we find out if there's anybody I know. Fight a chicken. Tommy might be on that list.
Andrew Adams:
I mean, you've bought a goose..
Jeremy Lesniak:
You remember that story is a great story. It's one of my best stories. If you want to support us, we will bring you more content like this. Maybe they don't. But you know, this was fun. I can't imagine if you didn't think this was fun. You're probably not watching or listening to the rest of our stuff. So, I'm going to assume the best about the wind. Yeah. number of ways you can help us out reviews. We talked about reviews, Apple podcasts, Facebook, Google.
Andrew Adams:
And maybe win a free gift certificate.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And hopefully win a free gift certificate. It'll only take you a couple minutes. Yep, we appreciate it. We've also got all the stuff at whistlekick.com. You can use the code PODCAST15, 15%. On a shirt or what else is over there? Mugs. There's a bunch of cool stuff, hats, hoodies. And if you really, really, really, really want to help us out, the next level thing is Patreon, patreon.com/whistlekick for as little as two bucks a month. You step up, we're throwing your bonus exclusively. audio, video, book drafts, program drafts, private training with me like there's so much stuff in there as options. Check it out. There's no obligation and check it out. It's not like you got to sign up and then we show you what your options are. You can see all the options for us. If you want to get a hold of us, Jeremy@@whistlekick.com. Andrew@whistlekickmartialartsradio.com or social media is @whistlekick. And we're done.
Andrew Adams:
One last comment.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay. Yeah.
Andrew Adams:
Tommy says we need to remind him and he will tell us the skunk story. Okay, so we got to remember the skunk story.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Looking forward to it. Awesome. Until next time, train hard, smile, and have a great day.