Episode 1001 - Hosting Guest Instructors
In this episode, join Andrew, Craig Wharem and Abbey Hoye as they discuss hosting guest instructors to come teach seminars at your school.
Hosting Guest Instructors - Episode 1001
SUMMARY
In this episode of Whistlekick Martial Arts Radio, Andrew, Abbey, and Craig discuss the intricacies of hosting guest instructors in martial arts schools. They explore the importance of connection within the martial arts community, strategies for creating seminar schedules, and the selection process for instructors. The conversation also delves into student engagement, financial considerations, and how to compensate guest instructors fairly. The episode emphasizes the value of collaboration and community in enhancing the martial arts experience for both students and instructors.
TAKEAWAYS
Hosting guest instructors can foster community and connection.
Creating a seminar schedule requires thoughtful planning and consideration.
Instructor selection is based on personal connections and trust.
Student engagement is crucial for the success of seminars.
Financial considerations play a significant role in hosting events.
Compensation for guest instructors can vary based on agreements.
Profit sharing can incentivize instructors to promote their seminars.
Offering a variety of seminars can cater to diverse student interests.
Building relationships with guest instructors can lead to lasting friendships.
The martial arts community thrives on collaboration and shared experiences.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Hosting Guest Instructors: The Importance of Connection
02:28 Creating Seminar Schedules: Strategies and Goals
9:31 Instructor Selection: Finding the Right Fit
14:09 Student Engagement: Reactions to Guest Seminars
19:21 Financial Considerations: Costs and Payments
25:18 Instructor Compensation: Setting Expectations
29:31 Final Thoughts: Community and Collaboration
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SHOW TRANSCRIPT
Andrew (03:19.723)
Welcome you're listening or watching the latest episode of whistle kick martial arts radio and today I'm joined by two giggle friends Craig Wehrman Abbie Hoy. How are you guys today?
Craig Wharem (03:31.754)
I'm so happy to be here.
Abbey Hoye (03:33.422)
Me too.
Andrew (03:35.219)
Excellent. We're gonna have a good time today. I know it We are gonna discuss a fun topic Hosting guest instructors, which I know you both have done fairly recently and do on a regular basis but until then I want to make sure that all of the people listening or watching know that This podcast is but one small piece of the whistle kick puzzle. We do so much here at whistle kick You can go to whistle kick calm to find out
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And we're here to discuss hosting guest instructors, which I know you both have done. And Abby, we're going to start with you because you have set a mission for yourself pretty much this year in having people come and teach at your school. And I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
Craig Wharem (05:30.29)
No doubt.
Abbey Hoye (05:53.214)
yeah, so this year I've been tasked with, trying to make the seminar schedule, for my school. And my goal has been at least two seminars a month. and thankfully for all of the really awesome whistle, whistle kit connections, you guys jumped in and I've been able to meet that, which has been great.
Andrew (06:16.651)
Yeah, you know, one of the things that we talked about in episode 1000 was that, you know, our motto here at Whistlekick is to connect, educate and entertain traditional martial artists of the world. And one of the things that came up quite a bit was the connections that people have made through Whistlekick. And you have clearly been able to capitalize on that, which is work seems to work out really well.
Craig, how about yourself? I know you have also done seminars at your school with other instructors. Talk about how that goes for you.
Craig Wharem (06:55.006)
Yeah.
So at my school, we do two major events a year for that sort of thing. And one of them just happened in February. And actually, Abby was one of the teachers. And the other one is in August. And you were one of the teachers, Andrew. So it's perfect. This is great. What I think is special about it is it helps expose students in your school to a wider array of people that they may connect with.
Andrew (07:10.413)
you
Craig Wharem (07:24.962)
One of the things that I've heard from the event I just hosted, like a week or two ago, was a lot of the women and girls in my school were super excited because just coincidentally, the four people who could teach at the fundraising event were all women. And it was really cool at one point, you know, we had Abby and I were talking, we had like eight or nine black belt women on the mat and all the younger girls were like looking at them in awe and it was really a neat thing.
And that's something special that you can provide to people. to me, it's no different than bringing my friends over to my house. I like hanging out with people. I like training with people. And so when I meet somebody at an event, coincidentally, again, not to turn it into a commercial, but most of the people who come to my school to teach, I met at free training days. And...
Andrew (08:20.365)
Mm.
Craig Wharem (08:22.398)
They come in, maybe I took their session and I had a lot of fun with it, or we've had some good conversation, and then I open up the doors. I don't just let anyone teach at my schools. There has to be some sort of connection or something there. But when you find the right people, it's invaluable.
Andrew (08:44.461)
Now, Abby, talk a little bit about the instructors that you've had at your school. You know, I know you mentioned you got a lot of them to Whistlekick, but how did you decide and determine who was going to be coming in when and how you set that whole schedule? And I'll preface this with, I've seen the schedule. I know what it is. I know not all of the people you have coming in are Whistlekick people. So
You know, just talk a little bit about how you determined what you were going to do in that regard.
Abbey Hoye (09:17.718)
Yeah, so similar to Craig's vein of like, right, he's inviting friends over. I went on a mission and said, what do I want to learn this year? And found a bunch of people that could come teach me what I wanted to learn. Because that's, you know, obviously, that's still good for my students as well. But at least I get to have fun too. And it all started with just a quick Facebook post. Hey, martial arts friends, who wants to come teach at my school?
and I got a bunch of people that way. And then I'm also part of a few, other Facebook groups of martial artists, especially a women's, jujitsu martial artists Facebook group. and I did, I did the same thing. I said, Hey, I have a small gym in Keene, New Hampshire. I can't pay you a lot, but who wants to come teach? and I people reach out that way as well.
Andrew (10:07.925)
Now curriculum wise, curriculum is a bad word to use in this case, not curriculum, but content wise, how cognizant are you both in terms of what the instructor is going to be teaching? So Craig, we'll go, we'll go back to you. Like, you, you, if you, if you were to say the main thing that you teach at your school was what would it be? I know you teach a lot of things, but like, if you were to just in general, I teach
Craig Wharem (10:34.238)
Yeah, I'd call it, the bass would probably be Kempo, I would think, and then everything's built around it.
Andrew (10:41.067)
Okay. So are you actively out looking for other Kempo instructors to come in and teach or other things, or does that not matter at all?
Craig Wharem (10:50.634)
doesn't matter to me, I don't care what the people teach. If I think that they're genuine people who can create a connection and inspire some passion in my students, I couldn't care less what system or style they teach. And for the most part, I don't ask to know ahead of time what you're teaching. If I've asked you to come and teach at the school, it's because I trust you.
Andrew (11:03.533)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew (11:10.159)
interesting.
Andrew (11:17.133)
Mm.
Craig Wharem (11:17.638)
And I think it's good for students to experience all sorts of things. Now, that being said, there is also the flip note. Maybe I know I have maybe my teacher or my teacher's teacher coming up, right? know, a lot of people we've talked about on the show, know, Tashi Mark is my Kung Fu and Kali instructor. If it's him, that's a little bit different to me. I'll probably ask him to do something specific because he'll fall in line with the curriculum we do.
Andrew (11:42.445)
Mm-hmm.
Craig Wharem (11:44.646)
So I use that sort of guest instructor, whether it's my chempo instructor or whatever, I use them as a meter stick for me. I let them watch the students and then at the end I ask them on the side, how did I do teaching? Like, what can I improve? So for me, there's a benefit there. But if I'm doing one of my events and Andrew, you come and teach.
Andrew (11:46.733)
Sure.
Andrew (12:03.575)
Hmm
Craig Wharem (12:09.126)
you I don't recall asking or saying to you, hey, I need you to do this or I want you to do this. It was just what do you want to do? Because I don't know everything you know. So I want you to come and share something that's in your heart and something that you're excited about.
Andrew (12:17.889)
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew (12:25.325)
Okay, cool. Abby, how about yourself?
Abbey Hoye (12:31.078)
so it's weird because we don't have a main style at our school, right? It is, it is called an MMA gym for the legitimacy of it is a mixed martial arts gym, which is already right. Craig's school is also a mixed martial arts gym. but it does have that foundation, that all of the students get the same foundation. whereas our school, right. People can have a foundation in lots of different things. and so when I was trying to create the schedule, I focused on,
trying to find things that would reach all of our clients, as well as I tried really, really hard throughout making the schedule to make sure that I didn't stack all of our traditional martial artists in the same month, right? I tried to break all those kinds of things up, right? Like Tashi Mark's coming to teach long blade and hand acts. So I tried to move him away from other people who were teaching blades and things like that.
Andrew (13:32.491)
Yeah. Okay. And that makes sense. That makes sense. Now, Craig, do you find actually, you know what? Pause. I'm to go back. So Abby, do you ask the instructors ahead of time what they're going to be teaching then to know, to be able to schedule them at the right, I don't say at the right time, but like away from, you're not going to have two people teaching, you know, BJJ the same month is what it sounds like.
Abbey Hoye (14:00.672)
Right. so, and because of the way that it's run more from a business standpoint, cause you know, part of that is also getting, profit into the gym, kids classes and seminars is where we get our main profit. and so I also have to ask it in a way that, right. don't know exactly the content they're teaching, but they have to give the seminar a title, and a brief description of what they want to do. so, right. So even if I've never trained with them.
we do have logistical knowledge of what's happening so we can start advertising.
Andrew (14:35.627)
That makes sense. makes sense. And Craig is the same for you. I mean, I know you said you don't ask this instructor to teach this thing, but do you try and get a sense from them ahead of time what they're going to teach or do they show up and you have literally no idea what they're going to do.
Craig Wharem (14:51.674)
Usually at some point a conversation will happen where they'll ask me, what do you want me to do? Or what do you think I should do? And then I try really hard as an example, when Abby came down, it was, what do want me to do? And the first answer was, I don't really care. Like, I just want you to be here and do something. But then once I started to see the other instructors on the lineup and I started to get a feel for what they were thinking, then Abby and I had a conversation that kind of narrowed the focus down.
so that it wasn't a four-hour event of all similar things. I intervened to break it up so it's not monotonous between four instructors teaching the same thing.
Andrew (15:20.557)
Mmm.
Craig Wharem (15:36.594)
I laughed when you asked the question, right, because Abby and I both, we're very fortunate to have so many martial arts with so much experience in so many different things that when we said, are you teaching? The answer is normally, what do you want? Which is not a helpful answer. But Abby and I talked about that because when Abby asked me, I said, what do want me to teach? And then she's like, no, you're picking something, right?
Andrew (15:52.758)
Mm.
you
Andrew (16:06.285)
.
Craig Wharem (16:06.558)
But I think that having the freedom to play in there is good too. So when I'm talking to my students and I'm talking about, know, in August I'll have my Skill Builder Day, and I call it a Skill Builder Day because the whole point is every instructor is gonna build some sort of skill for you. And so when I start talking to instructors about it,
I'm just gonna say, do you wanna come participate? And the goal is to enhance a skill. I don't care what skill you choose to enhance. You can enhance anything. And then if they say, well, I'm really struggling, then I'll help kind of guide or narrow it down for them. But the freedom to play, I think, is the most important part. So when I'm talking to my students, I don't sell the theme of the workshop or the seminar. I sell...
Andrew (16:48.653)
That makes sense.
Craig Wharem (16:59.198)
the fact that this person is coming to the school and they're great person and you should train with them.
Andrew (17:04.577)
Hmm.
Andrew (17:09.589)
Yeah, and that that segues great. That's a great segue into the next thing I want to talk about, which is how the students are receiving these types of seminars. So, you know, we've got kind of two ends of the spectrum here in front of me, Craig, you only do essentially by what I'm sounding like, what it sounds like to basically to events a year where you hire or you have you host multiple guest instructors on one day. And Abby, you're the other side where you're doing
you know, to basically every other week, a different guest instructor coming in teaching something else. So, you know, you're you're looking at, you 26 seminars a year, essentially. Abby, we'll start with you. How do your how does your student body react to having all of these seminars so close to each other?
Abbey Hoye (18:02.072)
So I think it would be worse if I had all jiu-jitsu like in February, right? Because then people wouldn't, we'd have the same clients trying to to the same, all of the same seminars at the same time, which would financially, right, not be feasible. Because we have such a broad clientele and I try my best to space out the seminars where they are, we've had really awesome, awesome feedback from it. Everybody, this has been the first year.
that we've done it this way. I kind of got on boarded for this this year. And we've had great feedback. People really like seeing that all of these really awesome people want to come to our school. And while they might not be able to make all of them, they're thrilled at who's coming and why they're coming. And, you know, we're this tiny little gym in Keene, New Hampshire, right? Who wants to come to New Hampshire? And all of these really awesome instructors are coming. So they've been having a really good time.
Andrew (18:55.885)
you
Abbey Hoye (19:00.59)
And all of our, every single one has been, right, has been booked, which has been great.
Andrew (19:07.117)
Craig, how about yourself?
Craig Wharem (19:10.762)
I was thinking about how excited I am to be there in a couple weeks because I'm teaching at Abbey's.
Andrew (19:13.133)
So.
Abbey Hoye (19:19.126)
It was my eyes, it's okay.
Andrew (19:19.283)
so my question is how do you, how do the students, like what is the, the interest level of the students? You know, mean, it's different from Abby's cause you're doing, you're only doing it twice a year, essentially. mean, I know that you, you have hosted other instructors to come in for like, it's just that instructor for that day. But you know, do you, do you tend to get a pretty decent engagement from your students?
Craig Wharem (19:20.49)
lol
Craig Wharem (19:46.954)
So last year was the first year I did it with the two big events. At the train-a-thon for Big Brothers Big Sisters in New Hampshire, the past two years we had 25 people. Last year for the first one, this year we had 28. So a pretty good size and I don't age gap it. It's anyone could come and participate because it's for a great cause. For the Skill Builder Day last year,
we ended up with 60 participants for the first one, which was really cool. And then we had a track for younger students and a track for older students. and the instructors would swap and have a good time. So I think having it that way helps because it's stuff that can be planned around. And then the other thing I do is I work smarter, not harder. So I do those two events that I host and then I let them know about things like Marshall Summit.
Andrew (20:33.462)
Yep.
Craig Wharem (20:46.058)
And so if they would like to continue to train and grow that passion, they can go do that while Andrew and Abby do all the work. Right. like, but so to me, the ultimate goal of a guest instructor is to inspire a passion or or an excitement. And that can happen anywhere. doesn't have to happen in these four walls. But. Obviously, it's a lot of fun when I get to host it and, know,
Andrew (20:46.092)
Mm.
Abbey Hoye (20:53.134)
Yeah.
Craig Wharem (21:15.934)
people come and stay at my house and we have a fun weekend, right? Like we have a good time. And that's pretty cool. And then going out to other things or other guest instructors, it's tons of fun to be a guest instructor also, because it's a different scope of teaching. Your goal is to, again, share an idea, something that's in your heart. It's not, this person needs to know A, B, and C to get to the next level. Like you're not thinking about that at all. You're just going out and having a good time.
Andrew (21:31.531)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Craig Wharem (21:45.866)
And I think so from the flip side, we've talked the whole time about organizing these events, but on the flip note, to be a guest instructor, which we've done episodes on presenting and things like that before, it's just it's a super fun environment when you get the right general people.
Andrew (21:58.583)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew (22:04.269)
Yeah, yeah. And that totally makes sense. Let's sidestep a little bit and talk about, you know, we're talking about students here. The seminars that you're that you're doing, Abby, yours are all on Saturdays, correct?
Abbey Hoye (22:20.974)
Mostly, yes.
Andrew (22:22.775)
So do the seminars take place during a regular class time or any of your students paying for a certain class and then there's a seminar that's not their class? I guess is my question.
Abbey Hoye (22:36.084)
just a couple of times, I think there's two kids seminars, throughout the year. and both of them are, paid for by the public and then a, and a much cheaper cost for our current members. and then I teach one and they don't have to pay extra for me because they get me all the time. But, but yes, and we only do the one that replaces a class is for the kids classes because of parent feedback that when they want to bring their kid to something.
Andrew (22:49.078)
Okay.
Andrew (22:54.102)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Abbey Hoye (23:05.602)
having it outside of their normal class time is a disruption. So they would rather not come one Saturday or come and pay a little bit, but have it not interrupt their life.
Andrew (23:08.695)
Yep.
Andrew (23:16.141)
Gotcha, gotcha. And for you, Craig, because you're only doing a couple a year, it's enough in advance that they, you know, students know about it, I suspect, way far in advance. And if it is interrupting their normal class time, it's only, you know, once every six months ish, right?
Craig Wharem (23:35.354)
Right, well, and I strategically picked August and I do it on a Saturday because I don't have Saturday classes in the summertime. So.
Andrew (23:43.081)
Okay, so it's not taking anyone's class away from them.
Craig Wharem (23:46.182)
It takes no space in the normal schedule. The train-a-thon happens after the morning classes. So in fact, that train-a-thon when Abby walked in, I was teaching a separate weapon seminar. So that day, the way the schedule worked was we had our morning classes, a weapon seminar that people could take, and then they could stay and do the train-a-thon. So there were some kids who got here at 10 in the morning and stayed till almost five at night. They just...
Andrew (23:53.835)
Gotcha. Okay.
Andrew (24:14.615)
Hmm.
Craig Wharem (24:15.226)
stayed and trained right through and had lunch here and hung out.
Andrew (24:18.443)
Yep. Yep. So that covers the student portion of it in terms of the timing. know, I could see if you were, Abby, if you, if your seminars were, were every Saturday at, you know, 10 o'clock in the morning and you normally have a Taekwondo class Saturdays at 10 in the morning, those students that are paying for Taekwondo are showing up every other week and losing a class. So neither of you are doing that. That's good. To just to keep in mind for anyone that might want to do that.
that might want to have guest instructors come in, be cognizant of if you're taking regular student time away. But that also would depend on if you're asking the students to pay for this seminar. So let's talk a little bit about that. Because obviously if the students don't have to pay for the seminar,
then if they're losing a class, they're not losing a class, their class is just something different. So let's talk a little bit about the student side in terms of how does that interact with your guest instructor in terms of finances? Are these seminars that they need to pay for extra?
Abbey Hoye (25:31.146)
So most of mine are, guess I'll go first, Craig, sorry. Yes, so ours are paid separately because they're on Saturdays during our open gym time. right, they're extra on top of their membership and they could either pay per seminar or if they're crazy like the three of us and want to go to all of them, they can pay for an annual pass to get a much cheaper cost for all of the seminars throughout the year.
Craig Wharem (25:33.832)
Yeah, hey, whatever.
you
Craig Wharem (26:00.542)
which I think is super cool by the way. I I love that idea. For mine.
Andrew (26:06.155)
Yeah, I will also admit I saw that and was like, could do essentially 26 seminars for this one price, which is pretty cool. You just have to have your Saturdays free. But Craig, go ahead and yourself.
Craig Wharem (26:19.498)
Yeah, so for me, when we do the fundraiser, it costs a suggested donation. So I usually suggest $20 for four hours of training. However, that being said, if all you can donate is $5, then you're coming in for five. It's a donation to raise money for charity, and I'm not going to force people to put themselves in a hardship to support others. The other event we do in August has a pretty
steep cost to it as far as putting it on. it's not it. Yes, it costs some money. Not a lot. And on the same note, like Andrew, you know, you pointed out, I give people months and months notice and to try and make money less of a barrier for people. I offer out a payment plan or things like like, well, I'll work with you. I don't want the financial side to be the downside.
But you know, there's the logistical cost of it. just the facility, right? Running the facility. But B, you know, when we have that many instructors, the instructors have to eat, right? The instructors have to have a place to stay. Like that all costs something. So it's the easiest way to share the load.
Andrew (27:36.801)
Yeah.
Craig Wharem (27:40.66)
So yeah, that's how I do it. It's got a cost, but I make it as easy to pay the cost as possible, including just rolling it into your monthly tuition.
Andrew (27:48.769)
Hmm. And then which sure. And that makes sense. Let that segues great into the next thing I want to talk about, which was, the finances of, of running this thing, of running these seminars. how do the two of you work out payment with the instructors? Is it a set ahead of time? Does the guest instructor coming in? Do they say I would like to be paid X, Y, Z?
and anything you're not comfortable talking about, that's fine. But I just want to get a sense of how do you determine that? Craig, we'll go to you first because Abby's been going first all the time.
Craig Wharem (28:30.89)
I know she's just quicker than me is what it is. It takes me a second to ramp up. So for me, when I ask somebody to come and teach at the school and they say yes, and then my next question is, what do you charge? Like that's the question. And whatever shakes out from that conversation shakes out, that could be they want to get X amount of dollars. Okay, let's see, can I make this logistically work? Or.
Maybe like Andrew, we were joking before, right? I asked you one time and you said, just let me train for the day. You not so politely, you said that, but you said, just let me train with every other teacher for the day and give me a place to sleep for the night. You know, like, and, and that shakes out or same thing, you know, with other instructors, I'm happy to always share time for time. So if Abby's teaching at my school,
Andrew (29:09.229)
you
Craig Wharem (29:28.346)
she's not charging me because it was a fundraiser or whatever I'm happy to reciprocate that by going up and sharing time with them as a a trade-off, know, so to me there's three ways to do it You can ask for a flat fee. You can ask for some sort of percentage Which is normally what I prefer more if I am doing an instructor's getting paid because the thing that stresses me out as the the guy running the place is
If they ask for $200 and I only get three people to sign up for $20, well, now I'm on the hook for the rest of it, right? And so a percentage usually, it makes me more comfortable. And then lastly, the one that I appreciate doing the best when I go most places, I do it this way, is I'll give you time and you give me time. because to me that fosters that community and that guest instructor culture.
which is the way I like to do it. yeah, I do my best again not to let that be a barrier, whatever they want to do that, because also professional martial artists can't do everything for free, right? We all have bills to pay too. making it, I try to make it as fair as possible for everybody.
Andrew (30:42.999)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew (30:51.241)
And Abby, how about yourself?
Abbey Hoye (30:53.432)
Wait, Craig, you pay people?
Craig Wharem (30:55.242)
Andrew, we need to edit this out. I thought Abby was muted.
Abbey Hoye (31:02.766)
Yeah.
Sorry, just kidding. No, we do it really similar way. I also prefer the profit split. It makes life really a lot easier. It also puts some of the onus of advertising on the instructor as well, right? If they can convince more people to drive to us, they'll also get more profit, which I really appreciate. We have had people ask for flat fees and it's the same thing, right? If it's financially feasible.
If I don't have to charge people $100 to come to a seminar, then we can do flat fees. We also had one person early in our gym's history who asked for, okay, I'd like this profit split or this flat fee, whichever one's more. And I thought that was a, I was like, But yeah, we also prefer to do profit splits. But same thing, right? I've taught at Craig's school for free.
Craig Scotton come and taught for my school for free, right, to try to trade time or I've also had people trade training as well, right? So training for me personally, as opposed to my students as well.
Andrew (32:16.543)
Excellent. All right. So we've certainly hit upon a lot of things on this. Is there anything that we haven't touched on in terms of having hosting a guest instructor coming in?
Craig Wharem (32:31.498)
Not that I can think of. mean, the point that I'm hoping people take away from this, at least from the stuff that I've been kind of, my head is at, is just, it's about connection, right? Like it's about that exciting thing. It wasn't that long ago that martial artists, you were in your zone and you were in your bubble and you didn't get to exchange ideas all the time or be out there. And so...
recognizing that we as a community of martial artists are stronger together. You know, it's important, I think, and I think that that should be the ultimate scope. If you're having a guest instructor come, you know, some of my best friends I've gotten from this sort of thing. That is actually how I met Jeremy. Was Jeremy came to be a guest instructor at my school. I listened to martial arts radio. One episode, I was like, I like this guy and he came down and then
he was one of the groomsmen in my wedding, right? Like those friendships can come from this. And so it's just important to keep that in the back of mind. Yes, school owners, you can use it to bump up your bottom line and bring income, but also there's the other side of it where you're filling a cup and, you know, supporting the whole community.
Abbey Hoye (33:49.174)
Yeah, I absolutely have to agree. think, making sure that it's something fun for your students, something fun for yourself, right? It can also, it can also help with that, that burnout feeling that you guys have talked about in previous episodes as well. and yeah, I mean, it's a huge community. It's a huge community boost. And especially when you're in an area with schools that are unwilling to work with you, or you're just in a spot where there aren't other martial arts schools bringing in.
Any type of outside perspective to your students can only make them better.
Andrew (34:24.821)
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Episodes as they come out And I think that's all we got guys. So until next time
Craig Wharem (35:28.734)
Train hard.
Abbey Hoye (35:30.2)
Smile.
Andrew (35:31.222)
and have a great day.